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Kim Jong-il Has Died

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posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 06:33 AM
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As a member of the Korean friendship association i was saddened to hear of the loss of the Dear leader Kim jong il.

Their is a propaganda campaign orchestrated by the USA and its puppet states which has been ongoing since the dawn of socialism,DPRK has been a prime target of this campaign since the fall of the soviet union and as a result people have a very biased and wrong opinion of the DPRK.

Even people on this forum have fell victim to the brainwashing,but on the brightside i have noticed in the past 5 years a gradual awakening of the people questioning the USA motives.

I plan on going into detail with this at a later date but for now i will tell you that the DPRK has lost a brilliant leader and statesman,
A man that dedicated his entire life to the korean people,he spent literally every day traveling the length and breadth of the country on field trips,visiting factories,military command posts ect even schools,newly wed couples ect i know this to be true as their are usually photos for every trip.

The DPRK will never sway on its path to achieving the juche idea,the usa will topple like a house of cards,the process has already begun.




posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 06:35 AM
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The people of North Korea are mourning their leader and who they consider as their father figure to large extent. Their emotions are very real. To them it feels like they've lost a parent. Funeral of Kim is scheduled on 28th Dec btw. Here are some pics from North Korea.






Workers of Pyongyang factory




Now people on this board and elsewhere can make fun of the facial features of North Korean leaders all they want, I hope it gives them a sense of security and feeling of superiority albeit fake as they have not posted their own pics of which we can make memes out of and make fun off. Nor have they posted their life in entirety which we can scrutinize and gossip about.

The fact remains people hate North Korean leaders because of the immense propaganda through western media which portrays them in bad light in comparison to the highlight which is given to the countries like Saudi Arabia, Israel, Sudan, Uzbekistan etc. which are all friendly dictatorship but equally bad countries led by their ruthless "dear leaders".

When I look at North Korean leader I see a person who against immense odds (USA, NATO, Europe etc) had kept his country safe from being invaded and in-spite of Kim Jung Il's bad economic policies which led to drought and starvation kept North Korea together. Was Kim Jung Il a perfect person? No he was not, he did wrong things but he kept his people and country safe from falling apart and being invaded through any means necessary.

So now anyone who wishes can go ahead and criticize me for not hating the man as passionately as they do or taking fault out of my post as much as they want all I want to say is RIP Kim Jung Il.
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posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 06:37 AM
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Apparently he finally recieved that 'strongly worded letter' from Hans Brix and the UN, had a heart
attack and died !


All together now......'I'm ronery, oh so ronery........




Peace
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posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 06:41 AM
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He killed himself because he Betted on Tebow in the Broncos game.
second line



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 06:44 AM
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Originally posted by EvolEric


InsideYourMind your entitled to your opinion 100%
And I respect it... I really do

But I disagree with it all the same

edit on 12/19/11 by EvolEric because: (no reason given)


My post was not a matter of opinion, but compasion. We are talking about the death of a human being. It is not something to ridicule or laugh at... if you feel that a death of another human is "satisfying" i can only hope you feel the same towards your own life and others that you love. Would it be worth making jokes and celebrating their deaths over a heart attack?

It may seem ok to say "his people suffered"... but really, did they? When compared to nations such as the hypcritical US... we can clearly see that the governing power over there is obviously not any different.

There are millions of americans who go by without hardly any food or pay every single day, many of which struggle to find shelter. For the sake of making a point, it seems the fact that North-Korea's citizens are 'suffering' is the only basis for Jong-Il being some kind of evil dictator.

Its not unexpected that Fox, CNN and the usual bunch would be airing headlines such as:
DICTATOR DEAD

However, if Obama or Bush suddenly had a heart attack would the same headline be used? All i can tell you is that it should be.

First off you are forgetting that North Korea is a communist nation. Many aspects of this can be a good thing... obviously some will suffer... but the same can be said for the west's capitalistic view of the world, in which i honestly think more people tend to suffer as a result. As i'm trying to point out, the fact that Jong-Il was the leader of a communist nation, this is what is making him an quote: "EVIL DICTATOR"? On that basis alone... would it not be right to incite death to your own leaders for waging wars and actually murdering people in blind sight?

Besides, a human being is a human being. You do not direspect the dead. Doesn't matter who they are, but if you really wished them dead... you keep it to yourself.



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 06:49 AM
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Yes, you cannot put on emotion with that scale. Just now on CNN they had some twit questioning the legitimacy of their emotions towards their leader... to think that many people would be apart of some propaganda scheme is utterly ridiculous.

And meanwhile, we have children on here making a mockery and laughing at this event, because someone has died.

It seems most of humanity is still unaware how important life is.



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 06:55 AM
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Originally posted by InsideYourMind

Yes, you cannot put on emotion with that scale. Just now on CNN they had some twit questioning the legitimacy of their emotions towards their leader... to think that many people would be apart of some propaganda scheme is utterly ridiculous.

And meanwhile, we have children on here making a mockery and laughing at this event, because someone has died.

It seems most of humanity is still unaware how important life is.





Its for this reason I wont be reading any of these threads.... it seems anyone that the west makes out to be a villain and uses propaganda against, is just "fair game" when they die.
I've heard a few radio/tv presenters making jokes so far... so I'm sure most of the crap on this thread will be same.

How somebody dying means that we should all start joking and mocking them is just beyond me.

Oh well.


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posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 07:02 AM
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The big question is what happens next...

If North Korea falls into civil war, we can imagine how many nuclear warheads may be stolen and smuggled to other countries...


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posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 07:10 AM
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Really? You expect these nukes (Numbered in single digits), If they even exist, To be stolen, In a country that the U.S can barley get spies into. Right.



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 07:12 AM
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Yes I do.

Everything is possible.



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 07:25 AM
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Yes, he was such a beloved and respected leader that he chose to waste billions of $'s on nuclear weapons, while much of his country is in a state of massive poverty.
He also enjoyed an incredibly luxurious lifestyle for a Communist too. Where's the minimal living standards for him and his nutty military leaders? While he bombarded his people with propaganda, every single day of the year, and they lived on the poverty line and struggled every day, he and his cronies are living in mansions, playing with their billion $ weapons, threatening their neighbors and filtering almost all aid to feed their military and not their people.

People who try to defend this man and his actions while blaming western propaganda are simply deluded. They have been brainwashed into thinking that he's managed to create some form of Communist utopia in his country.

The reality, as reported by the hundreds of people who have to ESCAPE the country each year, is proven. People are living in massive poverty while their leaders live in luxury. The same as Gaddafi, the same as Assad, the same as any other lunatic dictatorship on Earth.

Don't let the tears of the NK people fool you. Many of them have probably either been brainwashed completely into that position, or they're terrified of what will happen to them if they don't express sorrow.

We have reports from hundreds of defectors all around the world explaining that even speaking indifferently of their dear leader can mean that you are disappeared. These people have to express sorrow or risk raising suspicion amongst their neighbors, that's the reason we're seeing this orgy of grief that is simply too ridiculous to believe.



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 07:25 AM
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Originally posted by blupblup

How somebody dying means that we should all start joking and mocking them is just beyond me.

Oh well.

Yeah, it is not like he wasn't the target of ridicule before he died...



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 07:31 AM
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Thank God! I hope now that the " Dear Leader " who just departed this world on his journey to hell, will find more freedoms for the ordinary Korean person. This situation is going from the skillet to the frying pan.



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 07:32 AM
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North Korean greatest achievement :






posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 07:34 AM
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Yeah that BS is happening in Pyongyang, where people are the most brainwashed and where you can't live if you're not a total brainwashed party member.

The camera crews sure won't go film people anywhere but in Pyongyang... where people are probably rejoicing.

amurphy245 : I hope this is sarcasm. Otherwise, I hope you get a nice trip to the lovely concentration camps of your dear leader.
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posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 07:38 AM
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Originally posted by blupblup

Originally posted by InsideYourMind

Yes, you cannot put on emotion with that scale. Just now on CNN they had some twit questioning the legitimacy of their emotions towards their leader... to think that many people would be apart of some propaganda scheme is utterly ridiculous.

And meanwhile, we have children on here making a mockery and laughing at this event, because someone has died.

It seems most of humanity is still unaware how important life is.


How somebody dying means that we should all start joking and mocking them is just beyond me.

Oh well.


edit on 19/12/11 by blupblup because: (no reason given)


We would all have been celebrating in the streets if we were alive when Hitler died.

Actions and behavior are what are celebrated. KJI does not deserve to be celebrated or mourned. He was a man who spent billions of $'s on himself and his military elites while his people struggle.

Even without all the so-called propaganda against him (which is a little meaningless because we don't spend that much effort tarnishing most other leaderships!) you cannot deny that his family and military have been living a very comfortable lifestyle while his people suffer.

You don't need our media to tell you that, we know that it is true.

It amazes me that his personality cult amongst his people even extends to outside of NK, with people who actually have access to the internet, and varied media, STILL being brainwashed into thinking he created some form of utopia.



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 07:47 AM
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Originally posted by Thain Esh Kelch
Yeah, it is not like he wasn't the target of ridicule before he died...




That's fine man.... mocking the living and mocking peoples eccentricity is all well and good.
But do people really need to do it when someone dies?

Is that where are species is right now?

Mocking the dead?



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 07:55 AM
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Originally posted by blupblup

Originally posted by InsideYourMind

Yes, you cannot put on emotion with that scale. Just now on CNN they had some twit questioning the legitimacy of their emotions towards their leader... to think that many people would be apart of some propaganda scheme is utterly ridiculous.

And meanwhile, we have children on here making a mockery and laughing at this event, because someone has died.

It seems most of humanity is still unaware how important life is.





Its for this reason I wont be reading any of these threads.... it seems anyone that the west makes out to be a villain and uses propaganda against, is just "fair game" when they die.
I've heard a few radio/tv presenters making jokes so far... so I'm sure most of the crap on this thread will be same.

How somebody dying means that we should all start joking and mocking them is just beyond me.

Oh well.


edit on 19/12/11 by blupblup because: (no reason given)


This has been a staple of American Society for as long as I can remember. IT has never had anything to do with "evil dictators" or people whom Americans consider "undesirable". This is very literally the American Way.

I remember as a kid, some 30 + years ago, a local Philadelphia Newscaster had died in a skydiving accident. The jokes came pouring out within hours. I remember when the Space Shuttle blew up with a teacher on board. The jokes came pouring out within hours. I still remember the very first space shuttle joke I heard....

"What color was Christa McAuliffe's eyes? Blue. One blew left and one blew right."

For those who do not know or do not remember, Christa McAuliffe was a school teacher who was 1 of 7 crew members who died when the Space Shuttle Challenger blew apart on launch on live TV.

I guess my whole point is, it is not just this thread. It is not just ATS. It is not just ignorant radio and TV talking heads. This is a fabric of American Society. We do this all the time. We, as a society, have no respect for life at all. What we have is a general attitude of, better you than me. I do however think we are even more brutal when it is an "evil dictator" or one we consider "undesirable". Look at the reaction we saw when Osama Bin Laden was announced dead.



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 07:56 AM
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Originally posted by blupblup

Originally posted by Thain Esh Kelch
Yeah, it is not like he wasn't the target of ridicule before he died...




That's fine man.... mocking the living and mocking peoples eccentricity is all well and good.
But do people really need to do it when someone dies?

Is that where are species is right now?

Mocking the dead?


When the dead are dictators who used their people and the suffering of those people to enrich themselves, yes!



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 07:57 AM
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In Regards to his son who will now take reign...i get the sorry feeling that this will not bode well for his country or the rest of the world......Afterall he would have learnt much from his father and add to that his own views and you are probably asking for trouble.



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