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Racial studies a scam?

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posted on Dec, 18 2011 @ 11:43 AM
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Why is it that people can study different races in subject form, middle east studies,asian studies, african american studies.. Why in the world is there no white studies? Do we not exist? If a subject does not exist for us are these other subjects there to make people feel good about themselves. University education is bound to have an affect on the studied at schools. Are these subjects a scam to help universities create a multiracial environment so they can fulfill expected quotas of particular races? So I ask the question WHY IS THERE NO WHITE STUDIES?




posted on Dec, 18 2011 @ 11:46 AM
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Because we are the cause of all the problems. Personally, I have no problem being another races' scapegoat. I can handle it.



posted on Dec, 18 2011 @ 11:49 AM
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Good question. I would assume it's because most of those studies were initiated/started/brought about by whites themselves?
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posted on Dec, 18 2011 @ 11:49 AM
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I know how you feel. I am from Australia and I often feel like I am supposed to hate myself because the land was 'stolen' from aboriginals. Its absurd. I think all 'education' has an agenda. 'History' especially.

France seems to be the most sensible place when it comes to treating everyone as equal.
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posted on Dec, 18 2011 @ 11:51 AM
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If I had to guess, I'd say because everything already is "white studies." Studying the history of the US, what you will learn is PREDOMINANTLY about whites. So why have another class to study more of the same? Things like Asian and Middle Eastern studies are looking at other countries. There are also class studying Russia, a country that is predominantly white. There you have your "white studies", they just don't call it that.



posted on Dec, 18 2011 @ 11:51 AM
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Why are you caught up in that and complaining about it? Why are you so incredibly ignorant to realize that there is no white race. You have many different tribes and peoples under the "caucasian" banner. That was seriously thrown together to consolidate strength and to keep a separation going between immigrants and English society. Did you know that the Irish , Italians, and the Slavic people weren't considered to be whit until the mid 19th century?

If you knew anything about the smaller groups that fall under the umbrella then you would know that there are multiple "white studies."

I don't even know what to say about you and your post...



posted on Dec, 18 2011 @ 11:54 AM
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Did you know that the Irish , Italians, and the Slavic people weren't considered to be whit until the mid 19th century?


Source, please. I doubt it.



posted on Dec, 18 2011 @ 11:56 AM
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This is not an attack on you but maybe you are narrow minded?. The labeling came about, I believe, from DNA evidence (correct me if I am wrong because I would like to know). Native Americans weren't' considered Mongoloids way back then but they are now because why? Because DNA says so.

There are many more black tribes than white tribes so is it stupid or ignorant to lump all of the black tribes together and just call them Negroids? It makes it easier to lump people with genetic similarities together and list them as one. A chihuahua is still a dog as is a great dane, correct? They are different but share similar DNA so we just call them dogs.
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posted on Dec, 18 2011 @ 11:56 AM
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Here you go
www.lifeinitaly.com...



posted on Dec, 18 2011 @ 12:07 PM
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Because in a general sense our History is already primarily about White Europeans and falls categorically under the title of HISTORY.

And might have to do with where most Europeans and Americans originated from in western cultures.

Those that are not of European descent do not have as much documented history.

For examples Slaves cannot trace their genealogy back to Africa because no records were kept by those who imported them to the US.

This raised questions and in seeking answers and likely formed the basis of these various cultural studies.

I don't feel that it's a scam per se. But it is merely filling a void in our History which generally pertained to those of European Descent.


Peace



posted on Dec, 18 2011 @ 12:08 PM
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Forgive me, but I sometimes confuse race with ethnicity. Since the Opening Post dealt with race, am I correct if I accept the following?


In traditional anthropological studies there are actually 5 races.
These are
1) Mongoloid (Asian and American Indian)
2) Caucasoid (European)
3) Australoid (Australian and oceanic)
4) Negroid (east African black)
5) Capoid (south African black)

The remaining peoples are mixtures or "mongrels" of the different races above. This theory was originally proposed by Ashley Montague and has been disputed for years, but has still withstood the test of time to a large extent. The biggest problem with this theory is that all races share 99.99+% of the same genetic materials which means that further division of race is largely subjective, and that the original 5 races were also probably just subjective descriptions as well. The above theory has been used by people in the past to support racism as well as to refute it. All in all the preponderance of evidence suggests that race is for now a subjective term. Furthermore, until DNA technology becomes even better, then there can be no better answer than Dr. Montague's, but that in time we will probably find more detailed versions.



posted on Dec, 18 2011 @ 12:08 PM
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Of cause white people have different cultures, but since there are no specific tribe afro-american studies, I was trying to make an equivent. The point is what is there true point. There universities in uk that have departments that specialise in races degrees, african studies, middle eastern. However how about this should a phd in black people in the media be allowed? Does it have any value? Is it racist to produce such a degree? Would the person tend to be racist?



posted on Dec, 18 2011 @ 12:13 PM
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Most racial studies are done by political correct liberals and tend to show what they want to show. Look to the cilimategate folks if you want to know how that works. The real truths of racial studies will never be allowed to be revealed, too damning for some races and nationalities.

Yet on a personal basis, an astute individual can somewhat figure it out for themselves. Of course, nature/nurture has a hand in the results also, but DNA can point exactly the strengths and weaknesses if it were allowed.



posted on Dec, 18 2011 @ 12:17 PM
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Wait? Do you mean white as in skin color studies orrrrrr white by DNA bloodline tracing?

This could be huge. I myself have often wondered. How is white classified? If by skin color, then wow! There are lotssss of people in this world that have really light skin pigmitation and loom white.

If by DNA tracing that kind of a hard one to swallow. Because all DNA traces back to the cradle of life. Somewhere in africa when the migration north towards wha it now europe and towards asia.

Im not sure what was said about the color of skin back then. Tv would say everyone was white in the beginning. Even jesus. Science however would say otherwise.

I had sometimes in the past looks into this very question. Where does white history begin?i mean before america? Then before that country, and into africa! Where from africa did white people come from?

This post will be over ran by racist in a few. Goodluck though in finding your answer.



posted on Dec, 18 2011 @ 12:29 PM
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Originally posted by Aliensun
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Most racial studies are done by political correct liberals and tend to show what they want to show. Look to the cilimategate folks if you want to know how that works. The real truths of racial studies will never be allowed to be revealed, too damning for some races and nationalities.

Yet on a personal basis, an astute individual can somewhat figure it out for themselves. Of course, nature/nurture has a hand in the results also, but DNA can point exactly the strengths and weaknesses if it were allowed.


But that would be racist!




Ive always wondered if the liberal forced-multiculturalism fascists also think its racist to say, for instance, a Shire horse is categorically better at pulling a plow than an Arabian Stallion
Or if its insulting to a pug to say Border Collies are intrinsically smarter than them


Its pure political bull #. There is nothing more to it than that. Science and objectivity be damned, unless it conforms to some ludicrous PC nonsense.

Everyone is different. That is good; it would be horribly drab if everyone was exactly the same. We are not ant drones that are singular minded undifferentiated biological automatons, each essentially a copy of the other. No wonder humanity has such problems recognizing/facing themselves on the inside... they cant even cope with whats on the outside, in plain sight.
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posted on Dec, 18 2011 @ 12:36 PM
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The subject of black people in the media is already being studied in a university in the uk as it is the phd thesis being produced by a British comedian named Lenny Henry. I wonder however if as a subject it is racist. Working on the assumption that everyone who is black is somehow not connected to everyone else. How can a group of peoples achievements in any area be separated from any others. I just wondered if someone thought of thesis of white people in the media if it would be seen as racist, or pointless? I think as it would, then this is racist.What happens if he then goes to work in a university: assuming he gets it: then there will may be a seperate course or degree for black people studying the media. Although I absolutely defend his right to do as he wishes within the law: is this not near to inciting racial hatred? I'm not sure there will be a place in the future for a person who judges people based on race.



posted on Dec, 18 2011 @ 12:55 PM
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For examples Slaves cannot trace their genealogy back to Africa because no records were kept by those who imported them to the US.
How about the ones who exported them? You know other African tribes. Maybe they kept records? /sarcasm



posted on Dec, 18 2011 @ 02:03 PM
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I think society has to be judged as a whole.History isn't about white people as some suggested it although part of it perhaps people would rather alter. It is what it is: history is what is it. Separating out society into racial subjects will only make people intolerant of one another.



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 08:24 AM
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Originally posted by s12345
is this not near to inciting racial hatred? I'm not sure there will be a place in the future for a person who judges people based on race.


We readily identify the differences in sex but disregard the evident differences amongst races.


Who is the fastest man and fastest woman in the world, what race do they belong to?


Please explain this video:

They all seem to have a common racial tendency or am I just being bigoted?
The Discovery channel, surprisingly, ran a show on race and muscle tissue types about a decade ago which confirmed that blacks have propensity to dominate in sports where springy muscle tissue is advantageous and whites in the sports which rely more on raw strength. There are numerous sites that also discuss the natural propensity for criminal behavior but I’m running out time and space for something you can find with Google. .

How can racial forensic artists successfully reproduce a face & race from just bones?
You fluffies can bring up pygmies, percentages, or whatever trickery you want but the bottom line is that ALL biological classification was made up based on arbitrarily assigned criteria. We could make the argument that an elephant is the same as a mouse if we wanted to and anyone arguing otherwise would be racist. Even being of a different species is not even necessarily determinant of the ability to interbreed

Here is a site addressing anthropology and genetics of race: "In response, the left has adopted a new strategy: Deny the very existence of race! This is why we so frequently hear that "race is a social construct, with no biological validity" and that "science proves we are all the same." Ironically, it is in connection with progress in understanding the human genome — progress in the very field that will definitively prove the biological reality of race — that we most often hear that race is nothing more than "superficial" surface characteristics."

“The "there is more genetic variation within than between groups" argument also falls flat. The Enard et al. paper (3) states: "The variation in gene expression between individuals within the species is substantial, relative to the differences between humans and chimpanzee."There it is! An admission that there is more genetic variation within the human species, and within the chimpanzee species, than there is between humans and chimps! And as Harvard molecular anthropologist Maryellen Ruvulo states in the Pray article concerning the issue of intra-group vs. inter-group genetic variation:”

Are black males more prone to crime and violence? It doesn't matter whether you are in Africa, London, or a large American city you will see black folk walking around with "Stop the Violence" signs because of they are at a loss for their brutal male youth. When I saw video of them doing this in London it was deja vu.

Despite the media trying to skew the results to appear racially balanced, the truth is evident after years of this same scenario happening:

This double homicide just happened not two blocks from my house and on the same day another black male shot a police officer and was killed on the same side of town. Come to Indianapolis for black on white crime!

LINK 1: (Todays News)

LINK 2:

LINK 3:

A cute 7 year old red-headed white girl and her uncle were murdered not two blocks from me by their black “family friend.” This good natured white family supported this guy and even helped him get clear of rape charges. The little girl called him uncle. The murderous beast would still be free but a local store owner offered a $10,000 award which was too much for a greedy relative of the murderer to resist.

Black on white crime is so incredibly common that I’ve a long list of white people that I’ve either personally or indirectly known that have been victims of blacks (murder, rape, mugging, burglary) but despite being schooled and living amongst them for years, it is clear that this propensity is not reciprocated upon them by whites. I am saying that their behavior is racist.


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posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 11:05 AM
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Originally posted by s12345
Why is it that people can study different races in subject form, middle east studies,asian studies, african american studies.. Why in the world is there no white studies? Do we not exist? If a subject does not exist for us are these other subjects there to make people feel good about themselves. University education is bound to have an affect on the studied at schools. Are these subjects a scam to help universities create a multiracial environment so they can fulfill expected quotas of particular races? So I ask the question WHY IS THERE NO WHITE STUDIES?



To eliminate, enslave, or set a people to your agenda you must first destroy their identity and subjugate their will. This is why PBS television has openly stated that they are trying to create international citizens with their programming. When you watch their educational shows you are the one being programmed with taxpayer subsidized programming. Whilst flipping through television channels a couple of years ago I paused on a PBS educational program. It was a liberal elementary school teacher asking "racially diverse" students about their race and ethnicity.

The teacher asked the students why this was so important and called on a little Asian girl. The little girl said something to the effect of "if you forget where you come from then you forget who you are." I thought that was a clever answer and continued watching the program until I realized that there was one lone little white boy that of all the students was never questioned. It was his language, his nation, and even a member of his people teaching the class; yet the teacher never asked where he came from or whom he was. The message being that if you are white you simply do not matter.

“It’s a great brainwashing process, which goes very slow[ly] and is divided [into] four basic stages. The first one [is] demoralization; it takes from 15-20 years to demoralize a nation. Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of years which [is required] to educate one generation of students in the country of your enemy, exposed to the ideology of the enemy. In other words, Marxist-Leninist ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of at least three generations of American students, without being challenged, or counter-balanced by the basic values of Americanism (American patriotism).” ~ Yuri Beznemov, former KGB agent

From the Amazon page and forward to the book Cold-Blooded Kindness: "Are some people predisposed to kindness to the point of being destructive to themselves and others? How much of our help is fulfilling our own needs--including those of our hidden passions?"

The author, Barbara Oakley, described while on Coast to Coast AM, a term called pathological altruism. She mentioned a particular occasion in which inner city school students were being given the answers to tests by their teachers. Their teachers weren't ashamed because they were caught but were instead outraged that they would be asked to let minority students fail a test if they were unable to pass it honestly. If I recall correctly, Barbara Oakley described this as a kind of co-dependant psychological relationship in which it was emotionally upsetting to disturb the teachers dishonest, albeit "helpful" role.

It is amazing how many Euro peoples have turned utterly contemptuous toward their own interests whilst fawning for the sake of others. There is another ATS article on the ancient Egyptians and how they were instructed to never do this. I can’t find that article but I still have one of the linked web sites opened:

“Dont modify/change anything from your fathers (ancestors) teachings/instructionsnot even a single word. And let this principle be the cornerstone for teachings to future generations."

"The Egyptians never deviated from this principle. Early historians have attested to this fact, such as Herodotus, in The Histories, Book Two, [79]":

"The Egyptians keep to their native customs and never adopt any from abroad.”

Point being that homogenous societies are more difficult to destroy from within but otherwise not the greatest example in retrospect.
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