I'm mainly here for Pentagon debate though. Tomorrow is Christmas Eve, lots to do, so I wish you a Merry Christmas and I'll see you after.
Originally posted by intrptr
I don't have a pic of it handy, but one facsimile to your point is that straw is driven into telephone poles during tornados and at 2 or 3 hundred miles an hour.
Q: There are reports of straw and other debris penetrating cattle, trees and other solid objects during a tornado. Does this occur because of the wind speeds involved, or is there any truth to something I was told which is the "inside" of the tornado is a perfect vacuum that causes solid objects to basically "open up" or pull apart?
A: You're correct, there are confirmed reports of straws penetrating trees or boards in tornadoes. Years ago some thought that tornado winds were fast enough to drive straws into trees, but measurements of tornado wind speeds have shown that they rarely approach 300 mph. The air pressure inside a tornado is lower than the surrounding pressure, but is far from a perfect vacuum. The most generally accepted theory about what happens is that the winds bend trees or boards enough to open up the grains, a straw flies in and the tree straightens up when the tornado moves on. (12-29-96)
Originally posted by septic
Originally posted by intrptr
I don't have a pic of it handy, but one facsimile to your point is that straw is driven into telephone poles during tornados and at 2 or 3 hundred miles an hour.
Q: There are reports of straw and other debris penetrating cattle, trees and other solid objects during a tornado. Does this occur because of the wind speeds involved, or is there any truth to something I was told which is the "inside" of the tornado is a perfect vacuum that causes solid objects to basically "open up" or pull apart?
A: You're correct, there are confirmed reports of straws penetrating trees or boards in tornadoes. Years ago some thought that tornado winds were fast enough to drive straws into trees, but measurements of tornado wind speeds have shown that they rarely approach 300 mph. The air pressure inside a tornado is lower than the surrounding pressure, but is far from a perfect vacuum. The most generally accepted theory about what happens is that the winds bend trees or boards enough to open up the grains, a straw flies in and the tree straightens up when the tornado moves on. (12-29-96)
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Originally posted by septic
reply to post by intrptr
Yeah, same concept...the mass of the plywood strikes the fibrous trunk of the palm sideways, slicing through. Same idea with the images of LP records stuck in logs.
With the wings, a more accurate analogy would be the straw striking the tree trunk sideways, or the plywood cutting the tree down.
Originally posted by thedman
reply to post by intrptr
Problem had at pentagon was not only the fire in the lowest levels from the aircraft impact, but fire running the
roof and threatening the entire building
The wings are the spear striking sideways against a forest of trees.
ROOF FIRE
As the operation progressed and headway was being made, it became evident that the fire on the roof was not going to be extinguished or contained without substantial effort. Captain John Snider of the ACFD was assigned to join DCFD Truck 10 in an attempt to get a handle on the situation. The roof's construction was the cause of the problem. The roof appeared to be a typical slate roof over timber slats. However, on making entry into the roof, personnel found that under the timber slats were furring strips of wood, spaced every two feet or so, running from the ridge down toward the face wall. This wooden assembly was erected over a concrete roof deck, which was six inches thick. There was also a sublayer of tar-and-horsehair insulation, which was melting and igniting.
The furring strips created a 6-inch to 8-inch void space, which was contributing to fire spread and making extinguishment difficult. An inspection hole bored into the concrete showed it to be about six inches thick. Breaching it would be labor-intensive. Since the actual roof of the Pentagon was the concrete sub roof, it was determined that the roof fire posed no real concern for the companies operating below inside the corridors. The fire was threatening to impinge on a cluster of fresh-air intakes for the bunker in which Pentagon command staff were secured many levels belowground. The fire also threatened a cluster of communications antennae crucial to operational effectiveness. These air intakes and antennae were deemed crucial to the ability not only of the Command staff to stay secure in their underground bunker but also for the Pentagon to be able to maintain uplinks with its worldwide intelligence-gathering resources. If the communications were compromised, it would effectively cripple the installation's ability to react to the ongoing threat.
Since neither of these exposures could tolerate impingement, crews made a trench cut to interrupt the fire spread. Crews worked feverishly to contain and control the advancing fire and were successful in delaying it sufficiently on the first day so they could gain some breathing room. All roof operations were suspended at 2000 hours, to safeguard the personnel. Efforts were redoubled the next day; the fire on the roof was eventually declared under control.
Originally posted by intrptr
reply to post by septic
Sorry for the time it took to reply. I overlooked your comment.
The wings are the spear striking sideways against a forest of trees.
The "Spear" was the main body of the plane, no?
Originally posted by Kester
Originally posted by thedman
reply to post by intrptr
Problem had at pentagon was not only the fire in the lowest levels from the aircraft impact, but fire running the
roof and threatening the entire building
The problem at the Pentagon was the wall that stubbornly refused to fall giving time for members of the public to get numerous photographs from many angles of the hole that April Gallup carried her injured child through. The problem at the Pentagon was the inevitable lack of cooperation that evil people get from inanimate objects. The Problem at the Pentagon was the budget analysts who had 20 minutes to find the notorious unaccounted for 2.3 trillion dollars before they were viciously attacked. You only have to type in 2.3 trillion and you're straight onto story after story about the missing money.
Every day we discover more and more about the False Flag conspirators responsible for the horrific crimes we're investigating.
Originally posted by ANOK
reply to post by intrptr
If the fires were so hot, how could that woman have survived and stood where she did?
It is obvious that the fire was not as substantial as we are lead to believe. It didn't spread and get larger, it was already extinguished, and cooled, at the impact point before the collapse.
So how could fire have had any effect on the building, especially as the collapse supposedly initiated where the aircraft impacted? The steel could not have been hot enough to cause the trusses to sag at the collapse level if a woman could stand there.
