posted on Dec, 17 2011 @ 05:35 AM
I just finished an interesting documentary about Solomonic Western Magick. It details how one man supposedly rediscovered the secrets of King
Solomon's magickal techniques. From what I can tell, he is spot on, scientifically. The reason I bring up science in a discussion about the occult is
simple: the man openly acknowledges that magick is all in your mind, which is what many scholars are now saying. He makes a few simple claims:
1) Magickal manifestations take place in your mind, not in the physical realm.
2) Magickal ceremonies are hypnotic in nature (chants and meditation are very hypnotic)
3) The deities and spirits described by ancient texts are extensions of our own psyche, as we are extensions of the universe.
I am of the belief that he is entirely correct in all these things. Science is catching up to these occult beliefs.
Now on to the actual purpose of my thread.
I was raised in a very strange religious home. My parents were both extremely avid members of the United Pentecostal Church, which is known for its
eccentricities and striking oddities in comparison with non-evangelical denominations. If you have never experienced a session in a Pentecostal
church, let me break down a typical service for you.
Before "service" starts, members enter the "prayer room", which is a darkened room that is usually full of chairs or pews. These are usually
gender-separated. In here, all manner of strangeness may occur. Typically, everyone is praying loudly in a chant-like fashion, each independently. You
will hear very strong worship for God, as well as invitations for God's presence and spirit, and also requests for his will to be done or generic
requests like "heal my daughter", etc. Sometimes these individual prayer sessions will spontaneously unite into a massive group prayer where
everyone joins hands and prays together. Glossolalia, also known as "speaking in tongues", will also be a common occurrence in both individual and
After the preliminary praying, members will conclude their prayers and greet one another. They reenter the "sanctuary", which is where the main
church service will take place. Service will usually begin at a specified time (hence the organized exodus from the prayer room). Almost always a
church session will begin with a music service. The choir and musicians will play pre-selected songs, and the members will engage in singing,
clapping, jumping, dancing, running, rolling, and praise. This is the most lively and energetic part of the church service, and serves to break the
ice. Usually after about two or three songs, the pastor or assistant pastor will take prayer requests, after which the entire church will be led in
group prayer over all of the requests that were made. Then they will receive an offering. They pray over the offering, asking God's blessings on the
money given and that it will further the Kingdom of Heaven, etc. After this, more songs will be sung, until finally the speaking minister will
approach the podium and begin his sermon.
A minister's sermon can be about anything. Usually, though, it begins with a prayer, once again inviting God's presence and asking his blessings on
the message and that everyone will take it to heart and those that need to hear it will receive it in their hearts, etc. Then there will be a reading
from the Bible, which usually pertains to the message to be given. Sometimes, the prayer and the reading of the Bible will be switched, sometimes
there will be prayer, bible reading, and another prayer. It depends on the minister, but this is almost always the format. During the sermon,
evangelical ministers like to evoke verbal and emotional response from the members listening. In an evangelical scene, the purpose of the service is
to reach out to "sinners" and get people to join the church, or receive the Holy Ghost (God's spirit living within them).
After the sermon, the minister usually offers an "altar call". The front of the church where the podium is located is referred to as the altar. The
minister will invite anyone and everyone to approach the altar and pray. There will typically be several individuals who feel compelled to go up and
pray. Then, the minister along with any other ministers or even regular members will go from person to person, praying for them. You've probably seen
YouTube videos of preachers violently praying for people, laying their hands on them and yelling. This is typical. There are usually 5-6 preachers in
an average sized church praying for everyone during the altar call.
During the altar call is where the strangest things occur. People can become incapacitated by the "Spirit of God", literally falling on the floor
into a trance-like state. I've seen people go into meditative states of intense worship, completely oblivious to anything going on around them. This
is all a real phenomenon. I have experienced it first hand. I have been prayed for or ministered to be men and I would suddenly feel a strange
sensation in my body that would cause me to enter a strange mental state. I've also engaged in intense worship that put me into a trance of extreme
mental and physical pleasure. It was a feeling like everything I ever wanted in life was suddenly given to me and nothing was wrong in the whole
Now fast forward to today. I am now an agnostic atheist. I don't actively believe in the Judeo-Christian God known as Jehovah or Yahweh, or any other
gods. However, I don't rule out the possibility that godlike beings could exist, somewhere. But through my studying of the occult, for curiosity
purposes only, I have reached the conclusion that these charismatic, evangelical Christian practices are strikingly similar to some Magickal
practices. There are chants and prayers. There are invitations for the spirit(s) presence to enter the room. There are even trance-like states
achieved through prayer and meditation. Yet, Christianity outright condemns magick and sorcery to hell. One thing that sort of blew my mind was that
when I heard a practicing "sorcerer" reciting his prayers and incantations, they sounded exactly the same way as an evangelical minister praying. I
have heard countless ministers pray before the church in a specific manner that is very similar to the incantations of sorcerers.
So what gives? Have sorcerers infiltrated evangelical denominations? Or could it be that the hypnotic methods of human divinity are scientifically
explainable phenomena that are consistent across all beliefs...