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reply posted on 17-12-2011 @ 10:49 AM by Jepic
Originally posted by AzureSky
Originally posted by Jepic
I have a band and we do music and in the near future will start playing shows. If we are ever famous and I find out my music is being illegally downloaded without us getting profit, I'll hold that thought and when the times comes I would sue the snip out of every download provider.
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You shouldn't play music then, its an inevitability. And if you do that, think of how your 'popularity' will fall, much like metallicas did after the napster fiasco.
You lose fans when you decide to sue how they get their music. They may not have spend the 20 dollars on your CD, but they sure as hell would have paid to see your shows. I do, I go to shows all the time for music i have downloaded, because thats where they make most of their money.
And if you make hundreds of thousands a year and are complaining about people downloading music, then please assess your life.

Not to be insulting, but people who download music do not make over 50,000 dollars a year for the most part. If i could afford to buy music, i would, i do for some bands that i really like and want to support, otherwise no.


I don't really mind my popularity. I mind justice. I created the product for you to enjoy for your lifetime, because of that I want to get paid. Unless you lose the song or CD you won't have to pay us again.

I won't lose fans because the music speaks for itself. I'll still sell out gigs if my music is good enough.
What matters is my band's music quality, not my popularity. History will judge us based on our quality of music, not our popularity.


reply posted on 17-12-2011 @ 10:57 AM by AzureSky
Originally posted by Jepic
Originally posted by AzureSky
Originally posted by Jepic
I have a band and we do music and in the near future will start playing shows. If we are ever famous and I find out my music is being illegally downloaded without us getting profit, I'll hold that thought and when the times comes I would sue the snip out of every download provider.
edit on 17-12-2011 by Jepic because: (no reason given)


You shouldn't play music then, its an inevitability. And if you do that, think of how your 'popularity' will fall, much like metallicas did after the napster fiasco.
You lose fans when you decide to sue how they get their music. They may not have spend the 20 dollars on your CD, but they sure as hell would have paid to see your shows. I do, I go to shows all the time for music i have downloaded, because thats where they make most of their money.
And if you make hundreds of thousands a year and are complaining about people downloading music, then please assess your life.

Not to be insulting, but people who download music do not make over 50,000 dollars a year for the most part. If i could afford to buy music, i would, i do for some bands that i really like and want to support, otherwise no.


I don't really mind my popularity. I mind justice. I created the product for you to enjoy for your lifetime, because of that I want to get paid. Unless you lose the song or CD you won't have to pay us again.

I won't lose fans because the music speaks for itself. I'll still sell out gigs if my music is good enough.
What matters is my band's music quality, not my popularity. History will judge us based on our quality of music, not our popularity.


And you do get paid for your music one way or another. Thinking ahead here, say you hit it big and you gain popularity and play quality music like a lot of great bands throughout the years.

I may download your album which would cost about 16 dollars where i live. But ill go out and ill buy your Live DVD for 40 bucks, or a poster or two for 10, or some other form of collectible that most bands put out through their lifetime. (see Kiss, Metallica, Slayer, etc). (wallets, action figures, clocks, collectors editions, special edition guitars, etc etc etc)

While i get the whole "I made it, i wanna be paid for it" thing, you have to understand the age we live in, and its going to happen regardless of if you want it to happen or not. Thats just the age we live in.

The amount of merch that you would sell would outweight the amount of money being lost through piracy. And most people download one or two songs. If 200,000 people downloaded your one song, that one song is worth 1 dollar on itunes. so thats 200,000 dollars.

But you performed for 150 cities across the world at 100 dollars a ticket to sold out shows of 15,000 to 200,000 or even more! then well, the argument against piracy is moot. Since you've already made far more than you would have lost through downloading.

Of course, i could be wrong. These are just my thoughts.


reply posted on 17-12-2011 @ 11:10 AM by Jepic
reply to post by AzureSky


And you do get paid for your music one way or another. Thinking ahead here, say you hit it big and you gain popularity and play quality music like a lot of great bands throughout the years.

I may download your album which would cost about 16 dollars where i live. But ill go out and ill buy your Live DVD for 40 bucks, or a poster or two for 10, or some other form of collectible that most bands put out through their lifetime. (see Kiss, Metallica, Slayer, etc). (wallets, action figures, clocks, collectors editions, special edition guitars, etc etc etc)

While i get the whole "I made it, i wanna be paid for it" thing, you have to understand the age we live in, and its going to happen regardless of if you want it to happen or not. Thats just the age we live in.

The amount of merch that you would sell would outweight the amount of money being lost through piracy. And most people download one or two songs. If 200,000 people downloaded your one song, that one song is worth 1 dollar on itunes. so thats 200,000 dollars.

But you performed for 150 cities across the world at 100 dollars a ticket to sold out shows of 15,000 to 200,000 or even more! then well, the argument against piracy is moot. Since you've already made far more than you would have lost through downloading.

Of course, i could be wrong. These are just my thoughts.




But this isn't about me losing more than I gain. It's about me and the record label wanting to get paid fully.
I do believe piracy can end if there is a big crackdown on it. And I'll fight' till the end to make that happen.

Doesn't mean I wouldn't help out a brother in need of financial help.
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reply posted on 17-12-2011 @ 11:14 AM by HandyDandy
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Please tell me the name of your band so I can not ever see you in concert or buy a record from you. As your attitude is not something I want to endorse. Thanks.


reply posted on 17-12-2011 @ 11:17 AM by Jepic
Originally posted by HandyDandy
reply to
post by Jepic



Please tell me the name of your band so I can not ever see you in concert or buy a record from you. As your attitude is not something I want to endorse. Thanks.



No problem. We are still in the initial stages of finding that name but I will definitely come back to this thread to tell you when we get the name sort out.
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