Internment Camps---"For Your Protection"

A few days ago I happened across a website with "religious" content and in reading some of it, it turned from scripture to current events and bluntly stated that "God" would protect his people by sheltering them in internment camps during the tribulation which is supposed to "start" any minute now.

I thought to myself...how can anyone believe this garbage? But then today...in researching some scriptural passages, I stumbled into 2 more websites that were heavily promoting the same idea. God will hide and protect his people in the camps.

I wonder how long until local churches start telling this to their congregations?
Has anyone else heard of "the camps" being promoted with this slant?
Guess they are trying to head the sheep off at the pass to get them accustomed to the idea and willing to go without kicking up a fuss.
Oh, the poor sheep!!!!

reply to post by Alethea


Maybe they are those FEMA camps that are all over the place are for.

Ah come on christians, don't be scared, fight with us.

If anyone else finds websites promoting this idea...please post a quote and link.
Also if anyone has info on local churches promoting this propaganda...please post denomination and the area.
Maybe that will give us some clue as to where this might start if it is indeed a plan.

"The sports facilities are the detention/relocation camps..."

get on google maps/earth, search for "national guard near [anywhere]" and take note of how many national guard outposts are connected to sports complexes. There are a ton of examples throughout that thread.


www.fema.gov...

BILOXI, Miss. -- Even in the mind-numbing heat that defines summers in Mississippi, boys and girls still eagerly take to the field to play America's pastime. A softball field at the Rudy Moran Sports Complex in D'Iberville, named in honor of a former county employee, will be open for business within a week and local high school softball teams can hardly wait.

The softball field was used as an emergency temporary housing site for nearly 40 families after Katrina. Two years later, the trailers are gone and teams are gearing up to play again...

...The parks and recreation director receives regular help from Jerry Harper, a FEMA contractor monitor...

..."We understand housing people is more important than sports. And all of our leagues have been great about working with each other knowing FEMA trailers were still out here,"...

Eight of the 12 closed parks that temporarily housed more than 600 families across the Gulf Coast have been remediated and returned to their local communities.

FEMA Partnering With Minor League Baseball
www.ready.gov...

Since 2004, the Ready Campaign has partnered with Citizen Corps and Minor League Baseball™ to help spread the importance of emergency preparedness to baseball fans at stadiums nationwide. Minor League Baseball stadiums have provided the Ready Campaign with the ideal venue and opportunity to reach millions of baseball fans and their communities to encourage them to get prepared.

...by "encourage them to get prepared for disaster," it kind of seems like they mean "get them acclimated to the pressence of troops, weaponry, and military vehicles around the sports complex" ...

just look at the list of scheduled demonstrations and their descriptions. here's the year prior... www.ready.gov...

Obviously it's good to have disaster recovery centers, which sports facilities/the national guard ARE used for... But with recent politics and the NDAA, and KBR looking for contractors for prison camp infrastructure...

It's hard not to be creeped out when you come across [I]armories[/I] with parking lots full of humvees and other military vehicles/equipment, all connected to a place where people naturally congregate/where kids play...

FEMA Exercises at Giants Stadium.

FEMA to Take Part in Exercises at Meadowlands Stadium This Weekend

March 18, 2011

The Federal Emergency Management Agency will be at the stadium in the Meadowlands this weekend.
www.newyorkjets.com...

The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) and its federal, state and local partners will conduct an exercise — code-named "REDZONE" — on Saturday, March 19, to evaluate response concepts, plans and capabilities at New Meadowlands Stadium.

The exercise will focus on local emergency responder command and control coordination, critical decisions, notifications and integration of state and federal assets necessary to save lives and protect public health and safety.

Martial Law Can Happen New Orleans Got Iraqed

August 31 2005

From WWL-TV's wwltv.com:

"4:21 P.M. - WWL-TV Reporter quotes officials as saying there may now be 60,000 people in the Superdome and that more people are still being urged to go there."

Official spokesmen are now denying the numerous reports this morning from National Guardsmen and others that New Orleans is under martial law. But that is exactly what New Orleans and southeast Louisiana are under as the governor demands the entire city be evacuated...

Numerous media reports indicate that refugees are not allowed to leave the Superdome. The Superdome is now a prison. Tens of thousands of Americans, trapped in a 21st-century FEMA concentration camp.

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www.nerdylorrin.net...
www.bostonherald.com...
www.theage.com.au...

Truth about Superdome Horror

another stadium with fema involved...

...videos of some guys talking about their negative experiences using the stadium as a relocation camp when they were evacuated for wildfires.
They get re-relocated to del mar fairgrounds ( 32.97724,-117.261114 ) which is a huge fenced area containing fenced racetracks and a bunch of housing units(?) with water ways/ocean on 2/3 sides and railroad in back...

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Emergency evacuations? What the media won't tell you!

Imagine this....in the span of 8 days you are surrounded by fire, evacuated from a place you call home and placed in a shelter (Qualcomm Stadium) where you are afraid, disoriented but at least feel safe from the fires and are being fed. Then you find out -- only 3-4 days later (still in shock and disbelief from losing your home) that you will actually be booted out of Qualcomm Stadium so the football game can take place on Sunday (it is our understanding that the head of the NFL called Mayor Sanders and told him the game would take place in San Diego and relocating it to Houston was NOT an option -- we do not know if Sanders gave any push back to this demand).

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Men suspected of being mercenaries for Moammar Gadhafi, are held in a district sports center next to the medina, set up as provisory jail in Tripoli, Libya

Aug. 30, 2011

TRIPOLI, Libya (AP) — Rebel forces and armed civilians are rounding up thousands of black Libyans and migrants from sub-Sahara Africa, accusing them of fighting for ousted strongman Moammar Gadhafi and holding them in makeshift jails across the capital.

Virtually all of the detainees say they are innocent migrant workers, and in most cases there is no evidence that they are lying. But that is not stopping the rebels from placing the men in facilities like the Gate of the Sea sports club, where about 200 detainees — all black — clustered on a soccer field this week, bunching against a high wall to avoid the scorching sun.

Football stadiums being used as prisons after mass arrests follow weekend of government violence in Syria

- Mediterranean City stadium in Banias modified to act as giant jail
- More than 400 residents dragged from homes since Saturday
- Soldiers shoot dead four women as human chain blocks tanks' advance
- UN humanitarian team refused entry to Daraa, despite previous agreement
- Yemen security forces kill six after firing on teachers protesting wage cut

The Syrian government is using football stadiums as makeshift prisons after security forces dragged hundreds of residents from their homes.

So what about the KBR memo looking to contract supplies/infrastructure for prison camps?

a document originating from Halliburton subsidiary KBR that provides details on a push to outfit FEMA and U.S. Army camps around the United States. Entitled “Project Overview and Anticipated Project Requirements,” the document describes services KBR is looking to farm out to subcontractors. The document was passed on to us by a state government employee who wishes to remain anonymous for obvious reasons.

that document...

KBR
Government, Defense & Infrastructure

Page 1 of 4
Project Overview and Anticipated Project Requirements

Project Overview:
KBR is establishing a National Quick Response Team for our current Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) and U.S. Army Corps of Engineers (USACE) work, and for anticipated future contracts. Upon completion of evaluation, certain subcontractors may be invited to establish a Master Services Agreement (MSA) with pre-established lease rates and terms and conditions.
The Continental US will be broken up into five regions as indicated in the map below...

Services will be required in each State within each region.

Look at that memo, and all the info above, and all the coordinates linked to in the thread linked at the top... and compare it all with these guidelines/requirements for detainment camps...

Enemy Prisoners of War and Civilian Internees
www.globalsecurity.org...

Part Two addresses handling, securing, and accounting for EPWs and CIs. The MP performing EPW/CI operations must follow specific ROE and ROI applicable to this category of I/R operations. The EPWs and CIs are not treated as DCs or US military prisoners. Leaders and soldiers must be knowledgeable of the Geneva and Hague Conventions, applicable protocols, ARs, and US laws. During war or military operations other than war (MOOTW) involving US forces, the accountability and safe, humane treatment of captives are essential. The US policy demands that all persons who are captured, detained, or held by US forces during conflict be treated humanely. This policy applies from the moment captives are taken until they are released, repatriated, or transferred. Chapter 3 describes division collecting points (CPs) and corps holding areas (CHAs) that may be established throughout the battlefield. Chapter 4 addresses procedures for EPWs, and Chapter 5 describes procedures for CIs. Chapter 6 addresses unique planning requirements to be considered when operating an I/R facility.

Chapter 3
Division Collecting Points and Corps Holding Areas

A large number of captives on the battlefield hampers maneuver units as they move to engage and destroy an enemy. To assist maneuver units in performing their mission—

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3-24. Do not speak to captives except to give orders or directions. Do not let captives talk to or signal each other. This prevents them from plotting ways to counter security and plan escapes. An uncooperative captive can be gagged in certain tactical situations; however, only use a gag for as long as needed and ensure that it does not harm the captive.

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CENTRAL COLLECTING POINTS

3-46. A central CP (Figure 3-3) is larger than a forward CP, but it has a similar setup and operation. The larger holding capacity of a central CP requires additional MP. If sufficient MP are unavailable, it is augmented by a division, corps, or EAC band to assist with perimeter security. Captives are provided food, water, first aid, and medical attention as required.

www.globalsecurity.org...

Location

3-47. As stated in the division OPLAN or OPORD, a central CP is located near the division support area (DSA) in an area that prevents captives from observing activities within the DSA. It is also located near MSRs to make delivery, evacuation, and resupply easier.

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CORPS HOLDING AREAS

3-55. A CHA (Figure 3-4) can hold more captives for longer periods of times than a central CP. Depending on the availability of MP units to establish I/R facilities, corps MP units must be prepared to hold captives at the CHA more than 72 hours. If the CHA keeps captives more than 72 hours, MP must plan and coordinate for the increased logistics and personnel required to operate a long-term facility. The decision to hold captives longer is based on METT-TC and the availability of forces. Captives remain in the CHA until they are evacuated to an I/R facility or until hostilities end.

www.globalsecurity.org...

3-56. A CHA receives captives from CPs and units that capture them in the rear area. Usually, one CHA is established to support each division conducting operations. However, additional CHAs may be required based on the—

Will they be internment camps? We know they CAN and have been used as disaster recovery camps/centers, all it takes is guards and extra fencing...

Think about the logistics of quarantining/protecting people if a serious epidemic broke out... or if it's easier to imagine, a 'zombie apocalypse,' or any situation where people need to be protected from other people or a spreading disease...

Having national guard units at sports facilities is exactly the type of thing that would happen in any zombie/plague movie...

The means/vehicles to pick up/transport (possibly hunt down) large groups of people, and then also to transport them long distances...

Weaponry and armor. The terrain is easy to set up for defense, and fences and stadium walls are good zombie-barriers.

Great lighting and intercoms/loud speakers...

reply to post by Alethea


This freaks me out, and I want to get more info on it. Any idea of the websites you saw or even the search terms you used to net those results?

Look up Romans 13 1-7 (from the bible) and look into "clergy response teams"

It basically states that since God is good, and God created the government; government is good, and to disobey government is to disobey God..

Romans 13
Submission to Governing Authorities
1 Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. 4 For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience.

6 This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing. 7 Give to everyone what you owe them: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.

"Feds Train Clergy To "Quell Dissent" During Martial Law, Pastors Will Cite Romans 13 To Encourage Public's Submission To Police State."


Feds Train Clergy To "Quell Dissent" During Martial Law

August 16, 2007

Shocking KSLA 12 news report confirms story we broke last year, Pastors to cite Romans 13 as reason for public to obey government orders, relinquish guns and be taken to camps during state of emergency

A shocking KSLA news report has confirmed the story we first broke last year, that Clergy Response Teams are being trained by the federal government to "quell dissent" and pacify citizens to obey the government in the event of a declaration of martial law.

In May 2006, we exposed the existence of a nationwide FEMA program which is training Pastors and other religious representatives to become secret police enforcers who teach their congregations to "obey the government" in preparation for the implementation of martial law, property and firearm seizures, mass vaccination programs and forced relocation.

A whistleblower who was secretly enrolled into the program told us that the feds were clandestinely recruiting religious leaders to help implement Homeland Security directives in anticipation of a a potential bio-terrorist attack, any natural disaster or a nationally declared emergency.

The first directive was for Pastors to preach to their congregations Romans 13, the often taken out of context bible passage that was used by Hitler to hoodwink Christians into supporting him, in order to teach them to "obey the government" when martial law is declared.

It was related to the Pastors that quarantines, martial law and forced relocation were a problem for state authorities when enforcing federal mandates due to the "cowboy mentality" of citizens standing up for their property and second amendment rights as well as farmers defending their crops and livestock from seizure.

It was stressed that the Pastors needed to preach subservience to the authorities ahead of time in preparation for the round-ups and to make it clear to the congregation that "this is for their own good."

Pastors were told that they would be backed up by law enforcement in controlling uncooperative individuals and that they would even lead SWAT teams in attempting to quell resistance.

Though some doubted the accuracy of this report at the time due to its fundamentally disturbing implications, the story has now been confirmed by a KSLA 12 news report, in which participating clergy and officials admit to the existence of the program.

Screenshot from the KSLA 12 news article that accompanies the video report ( www.ksla.com... ).

So there you have it - Homeland Security are working with local police departments and religious leaders to prepare for the declaration of martial law and in particular developing techniques they will employ during the crisis to "quell dissent."

Phony Christian leaders are brainwashing their congregations to accept the premise that the totalitarian police state is "of the Lord" and that they should get on their knees and lick jackboots while the round-ups take place as citizens are processed into quarantine zones and detention camps by the National Guard and U.S. troops returning from Iraq.

The precedent for mass gun confiscation and martial law in times of a real or manufactured emergency was set during Hurricane Katrina, when police and National Guard patrols forced home owners - even in areas unaffected by the hurricane - to hand over their legally owned firearms at gunpoint.

This is a clear precursor for the imminent declaration of a state of emergency, a scenario that President Bush codified in his recent Presidential Decision Directive of May 9th , which states in the event of a "catastrophic event" the President can take total control over the government and the country, bypassing all other levels of government at the state, federal, local, territorial and tribal levels, and thus ensuring total unprecedented dictatorial power.

The scope of the program is so secretive that even Homeland Security Committee member and Congressman Peter DeFazio was denied access to view the classified portion of the documents.

All I know is, this story needs to be on the front page where EVERYONE can have some heads-up! I've never come across more vital and necessary info before; now that TSHTF, we need to know these things just to survive. To all who've contributed so well, thank you for a service to your Nation. Blessings!

reply to post by Alethea


I see articles and some info about churches being strong-armed by the IRS and DHS.
(possibly both agencies have much non-Christian influence)

The 501c3 is being used as the bait and hook.

Right out of a Nazi play or movie, you just cannot get more fascist than this. The churches are being forced to go along with FEMA, with loosing their 501c3 tax exemption to prepare their communities to relinquish their firearms and obey their officials and leaders by taking Romans: 13 out of context. Below are articles links and a news report on this outrageous assult on America!

A Pastor has come forward to blow the whistle on a nationwide FEMA program which is training Pastors and other religious representatives to become secret police enforcers who teach their congregations to "obey the government" in preparation for a declaration of martial law, property and firearm seizures, and forced relocation.

In March of this year the Pastor, who we shall refer to as Pastor Revere, was invited to attend a meeting of his local FEMA chapter which circulated around preparedness for a potential bio-terrorist attack, any natural disaster or a nationally declared emergency.

The FEMA directors told the Pastors that attended that it was their job to help implement FEMA and Homeland Security directives in anticipation of any of these eventualities. The first directive was for Pastors to preach to their congregations Romans 13, the often taken out of context bible passage that was used by Hitler to hoodwink Christians into supporting him, in order to teach them to "obey the government" when martial law is declared.

A Pastor has come forward to blow the whistle on a nationwide FEMA program

AND ......

FEMA training document for pastors (PDF) 33 pages.

AND ......

US Churches Now Part of FEMA & Homeland Security Initiatives

In this teaching we will first update you on the impending crisis in the Middle East relating to both the impending war between the Israel and the Islamic nations and the ever escalating situation regarding the US and Iran. We will see how the highest ranking Freemason of the 1800′s (Albert Pike), demonically prophesized on 1/22/1870 that three world wars would be needed in order to establish the New World Order; & the last of these world wars would be between Judaism and Islam. Now this was in 1870 which was decades before the nation of Israel even existed. We will then take a comprehensive look at the state of America and its churches to confirm why this nation has fallen into such depravity.

To this end will then be documenting how the 501-c-3 Churches in the US are now part of Homeland Security according to legislation enacted on 3/7/06, signed by Pres. Bush; & the secret FEMA plan to use pastors of 501-c-3 churches as pacifiers (to their congregations) in preparations for Martial Law (which will be the lynch pin in the US for seizure of guns, property, forced inoculations, forced relocation/imprisonment, etc.).

We will then look at the 30 ways that the IRS tries to control preachers and churches in America via their 501-c-3 tax-exempt, corporate status granted to them by the government. We will end by reviewing a recent article entitled “Christians duty to know how donations are used.”

Related article;
FEMA Judas Goats

We are at war with Islam.The FEMA camps are for the muslims.

I have repeatedly urged muslims to apostate or self-deport.

If you are a muslim in America, you surely know that the dawa is losing its effectiveness. Americans are not buying into the lies as readily as the Europeans. The Jihad in America is faltering. It will ultimately fail.

Leave now. Go back to Dar al-Islam, You are not wanted in the West.

reply to post by mike_trivisonno


Last I read the FEMA camps can hold over 21 million people. There may be 2 million Muslims in the US if all of them were arrested who makes up the other 19 million people? There are over 1.5 BILLION Muslims and about 325 million US population. I know the US government is currently being run by the mentally challenged but I hope even they aren't that crazy. Why would anyone declare war on a Religion especially a major one?

reply to post by Alethea


Seriously, who would fall for that?? Why would any Christian believe that God needs FEMA to provide divine protection? Is God sitting on His throne saying "Wow, thank myself that FEMA built these camps, I was worried I wouldn't be able to protect my sheep all the way up here in heaven."

reply to post by NOTurTypical


Hey Bob!
Yes Steve?
Did you hear what Moses said?
No, what?
He said God told him to lead us into the desert and we will be saved from the Egyptians.
How long will we be out there?
I don't Know.
Will there be food, water, and shelter?
I don't know.
So We are supposed to just walk out of here with no assurances of the future because Moses said he talked to God?
Yes.
Okay when do we leave?


Its called faith in the preacher man. To me, a FEMA camp sounds a little more believable than, hey, lets just walk into the barren landscape with women and children and no idea of where we are going or how long we will be out in the elements, but it was done. We already know the general public does not think like an ATSer with critical thinking and all, so is it really a stretch of the mind to see how people will believe?

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by Alethea

 

Seriously, who would fall for that?? Why would any Christian believe that God needs FEMA to provide divine protection? Is God sitting on His throne saying "Wow, thank myself that FEMA built these camps, I was worried I wouldn't be able to protect my sheep all the way up here in heaven."

Maybe it all depends how soneone interprets Romans13.

Does anyone know if Romans13 has different meanings in different languages,

and what does it truly mean in its' original language?

Originally posted by mike_trivisonno
We are at war with Islam.The FEMA camps are for the muslims.

I have repeatedly urged muslims to apostate or self-deport.

If you are a muslim in America, you surely know that the dawa is losing its effectiveness. Americans are not buying into the lies as readily as the Europeans. The Jihad in America is faltering. It will ultimately fail.

Leave now. Go back to Dar al-Islam, You are not wanted in the West.

edit on 17-12-2011 by mike_trivisonno because: (no reason given)

To be a Muslim is an expression of faith, not nationality - it has nothing to do with the country you live in. What faith do you follow? Using your logic I assume you are a Mormon (not really a faith, but that's another story isn't it)