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Post-American Iraq by the Numbers

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posted on Dec, 16 2011 @ 10:42 PM

Population of Iraq: 30 million

Percentage of Iraqis who lived in slum conditions in 2000: 17

Percentage of Iraqis who live in slum conditions in 2011: 50

Number of the 30 million Iraqis living below the poverty line: 7 million.

Number of Iraqis who died of violence 2003-2011: 150,000 to 400,000.

Orphans in Iraq: 4.5 million.

Orphans living in the streets: 600,000.

Number of women, mainly widows, who are primary breadwinners in family: 2 million.

Iraqi refugees displaced by the American war to Syria: 1 million

Internally displaced persons in Iraq: 1.3 million

Proportion of displaced persons who have returned home since 2008: 1/8

Rank of Iraq on Corruption Index among 182 countries: 175

Because the US media focuses on personalities instead of on social realities, they find it easy to go on interviewing Dick Cheney (who should be in jail), rather than reporting on what exactly Iraq looks like. If we examine some basic social statistics, the reasons for which American Iraq is not considered a model by other Arabs becomes blindingly obvious. For one thing, Iraq still suffers from a steady drumbeat of violence, with regular bombings and other attacks. Indeed, the monthly death toll in political and guerrilla violence for Iraqis is broadly similar to that in Afghanistan, an active war zone!

Now that the withdraw is official, we can tally the numbers and reveal the atrocities. What did we accomplish exactly? What did we find there? "No WMD's Here! lol!....

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posted on Dec, 16 2011 @ 11:17 PM
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What was the population before Desert Shield Storm? ( I wonder)

Now that the withdraw is official, we can tally the numbers and reveal the atrocities. What did we accomplish exactly? What did we find there? "No WMD's Here! lol!....

Yah, sorry about that. Oh hey gee whiz, just look at all this black stuff oozing out the ground! Well, I'll be!

Plus if we really do leave them to their own devices there will be a rise in repercussions for "collaborating with the enemy" (US). Of course, like we will see any of that coming from our media in the "new peaceful Iraq".

posted on Dec, 16 2011 @ 11:21 PM
Perhaps the next time someone in Washington decides they just must have regime change somewhere else, they can drop the pretenses and put their own tail on the line for a direct assassination of said foreign leader.

I think we all know and understand the only reason a person like Bin Laden can be assassinated but Saddam and Gadaffi can't be is the fear by world leaders that to do that will get it done back in return.

Well, it's better to see the world leaders go at each other on a most personal level and kill hundreds than national wars when the death of ONE MAN is the only real point in the first place. Enough death on wholesale levels to kill just one or a handful of individual people.

Great thread...even if reading the numbers makes me feel a bit ill, particularly given how it's all ended. Lets see how long it takes for civil war to fire back up in Iraq when the withdrawal is as complete as it's going to get this time.

Oh, and I sure feel for the Embassy staff. That's a mighty large city, regardless of how many people they have within the mini-city compound.

posted on Dec, 16 2011 @ 11:22 PM
Yeah but now they have democracy, and although ive not actually had a chance to ask many Iraq's about how they feel about this, im pretty sure there pleased as punch!

posted on Dec, 16 2011 @ 11:28 PM
Ahh the sweet smell of democracy .... or is that the smell of death? Meh same difference. I wonder if they have us on their christmas card list? Prolly not after uncle george and second cousin obama mad asses of themselves at last years xmas party. Iran get ready, sweet american democracy is comin your way.

posted on Dec, 16 2011 @ 11:38 PM
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And now we face a generation of potential terrorists.The US War on Terror perpetuates terrorism.

posted on Dec, 16 2011 @ 11:48 PM

Originally posted by dezertdog
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And now we face a generation of potential terrorists.The US War on Terror perpetuates terrorism.

Actually, the US War on Terroris terrorism. Crimes against humanity seems a fair charge.

posted on Dec, 16 2011 @ 11:51 PM
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Woah woah, slow down there buddy!

Thats some accusation to make. Surely if America was commiting war crimes somewhere, someone would have noticed and contacted the appropriate authorities at the U.N so the they could take action? It would be all over the news man!, no i cant see it myself, the numbers be damned!

posted on Dec, 17 2011 @ 12:15 AM
This is why those who think that God is on the side of America are highly disillusioned. God lets an arrogant country, person free reign over their power because it is merely a test. It is things like this that do not surprise me that pretty soon God will destroy all of the USA. After all the weak and poor are destined to inherit the earth, not the powerful and arrogant and murdering.

posted on Dec, 17 2011 @ 01:26 PM
Murder has bipartisan support. Its the only thing they all agree on.

posted on Dec, 17 2011 @ 04:03 PM
Quite sickening if you ask me.
And the UN is corrupt as hell too, they're paid off by the big guys too. Im not talking the USA, im talking the people who want the resources there.

Everyone has a price apparently,
It is genocide, but how much real news do we hear out of there? Most of it goes -unreported-. You think the UN guys fly into an active warzone to see if they're killing innocent people?

And even if they did see all those innocent people dead, they'de just blame the bad guys anyways. Call it 'collateral damage' or something and call it a day. Its a war crime, except when the world police do it. Then its 'bringing democracy' and 'ending terrorism'

What they dont tell you is. 'it is for oil'. The most oil rich land is in the middle east. Like the caspian sea area (was watching a guy talking about it the other day). The entire area is rich. Libya is a prime example as well. We're still there because we need to keep the pipeline opened. To let the oil flow to the west.

Not to mention the expenditures on weaponry and equipment(at taxpayer cost and corporate benefit) the man hours/power and training (xe, blackwater, whatever), giant billion dollar rebuilding contracts after expending trillions (of your money) to the benefit of corporations (like halliburton).

Its easy to think 'its not happening here'. But there are people just like you and me there. Trying to live. And we are the cause of great suffering worldwide. Here at home too. Many soldiers lives losts, families broken.

It would have been just as easy to send in a small group of well trained soldiers, take out the dictator and then do whatever. Not pummel several countries into submission for 10 years.

Controversial view maybe? Am i alone in this train of thought? It makes me angry really..

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