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I want to say, that, of course, in this body- human cannot endure being there... he wouldn't be able to endure a split second of existance there, he would live through a hundred thousands of deaths in one second if he was in this body down there... yes, it might sound to you fairy-tale like or as science-fiction... but its how it is... there a human probably would be glad to cease to exist, but he cannot do that...and if you take all the most negative feelings and experiences on earth in their outermost degree.. then its like flowers comparing to what is down there
YAHUVEH created ADAM (man and woman) so he could have a bride. This bride would also fulfill an eternal destiny as the Bride of YAHUSHUA to worship YAHUVEH for all eternity by giving glory to his name and fill the void which Hillel and 1/3rd of the angels left in heaven when she rebelled. This is the reason for the intense hatred of Hillel towards YAHUVEH’s anointed and chosen bride-Israel. This confrontation started with ADAM.
Hillel-satan had dominion over the earth (1st heaven) and the air (2nd heaven); remember, he is the prince of the power of the air. When Hillel rebelled, he lost exalted position as type of bride and covering cherub. YAHUVEH then set up to bring another bride – ADAM first, then Israel.
Verses 22-24 - Man has become like the unique one (reference to Helel-satan the covering cherub with a breastplate.)[color=palevioletred] They are banished from the Garden. (This is a blessing from YAHUVEH. Had we eaten of the Tree of Life we would be like the angels who fell with helel-satan, with no hope of redemption! They have now erected by the error of their sin, the veil separating them from YAHUVEH or direct access to the Holy of Holies. YAHUVEH extended his grace and showed mercy, did not kill them.
Originally posted by ccsct203
reply to post by biggmoneyme
Those very words will ring in your ears for eternity
And you will remember this day when you said that
Originally posted by schuyler
We've had quite a few threads in the last couple of months about NDEs and seeing some part of the afterlife, whether it is a 12 year old girl or this guy. It seems to me that one conclusion we can draw is that you see what you expect to see, and that our expectations are not always what we would voice as our opinion. We've had people see the devil, Hell, Heaven, Jesus, 72 black eyed virgins, or some place they couldn't name. They've been shown Hitler and Khadaffi in Hell. They've seen Mary, their parents or loved ones, or people they didn't even know.
I suspect the majority of these people really did see something. I don't think they are intentionally faking their experiences, nor do I think they have any objective reality. They don't really prove anything. This is a kind of 15 minutes of fame for them, and that's fine. I just don't think we can draw any conclusions about their stories.
We walked on to another cell. A woman sat picking the worms off her bones. She began to cry I when she saw Jesus. "Help me, Lord," she said, "III will be good. Please let me out." She also arose and clenched the bars of the cell. I felt such great pity for her. As she cried, sobs shook her body.
She said, "Lord, when I was on earth,[color=palevioletred]I worshiped the Hindu gods and many idols. I would not believe the gospel the missionaries preached to me, although I heard it many times. One day I died. I cried for my gods to save me from hell, but they could not. Now, Lord, I'd like to repent."
"It's too late," said Jesus.
Flames covered her form as we walked on; her cries still fill my soul even now. Satan had deceived her.
With sadness in His voice Jesus said, "Come, we will return tomorrow. It is time to go now."
Originally posted by Pocky
reply to post by NOTurTypical
I think the " bride" thing is an analogy. God wants a faithful bride who will be loyal to him unlike the 1/3 Fallen Angels who rebelled with Lucifer and believed that he could become like God and be their new ruler.
Originally posted by 547000
reply to post by Cuervo
Nah, come atheists see hell too in NDEs.