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Originally posted by projectvxn
reply to post by CALGARIAN
Israel doesn't need the 82nd Airborne out there protecting their borders. They can,indeed, protect themselves.
This does not mean that we shouldn't support Israel.
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Recently Americans have begun to read and hear that “Israel receives $3 billion in annual U.S. foreign aid.” That's true.
But it's still a lie. The problem is that in fiscal 1997 alone, Israel received from a variety of other U.S. federal budgets at least $525.8 million above and beyond its $3 billion from the foreign aid budget, and yet another $2 billion in federal loan guarantees. So the complete total of U.S. grants and loan guarantees to Israel for fiscal 1997 was $5,525,800,000.
One can truthfully blame the mainstream media for never digging out these figures for themselves, because none ever have. They were compiled by the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs. But the mainstream media certainly are not alone.
Although Congress authorizes America's foreign aid total, the fact that more than a third of it goes to a country smaller in both area and population than Hong Kong probably never has been mentioned on the floor of the Senate or House. Yet it's been going on for more than a generation. Probably the only members of Congress who even suspect the full total of U.S. funds received by Israel each year are the privileged few committee members who actually mark it up. And almost all members of the concerned committees are Jewish, have taken huge campaign donations orchestrated by Israel's Washington, DC lobby, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), or both. These congressional committee members are paid to act, not talk. So they do and they don't.
Originally posted by tothetenthpower
reply to post by jjf3rd77
The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.
Iran hasn't attacked a nation in a century. They aren't going to start a war. At least there is no indication of them wanting to do so. All they want is the ability to tell the rest of the world to mind their own business by having an ace in the hole.
The nuke. IMO every nation has the right to a trump card to prevent itself from being manipulated by outside forces, against it's own will and against it's own interests. It just so happens in today's world that you need a nuclear weapon to do that.
Let them eat cake.
If you wanna blame anybody, blame Canada, we are the ones who developped and sold CANDU reactors to those middle eastern nations anyway.
~KeeperAs an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.
Originally posted by Alxandro
Ouch, he just called Ron Paul a "Zionist".
Yes, Israel can indeed protect itself, no doubt about it.
But just because they CAN doesn't mean they should.
Let's just say Iran attacks and Israel retaliates with a vengeance.
What happens next?
The world will be symapthetic to Iran's cause and conveniently forget that Iran started the conflict.
I can see nothing more than escalation at that point.
What will Ron Paul have to say then?
That's what Ron Paul is overlooking so he is indeed "under reacting".
Originally posted by buster2010
What will Ron Paul say if war breaks out between Israel and Iran? It's their problem let them deal with it. He has said this many times and Benny has also said they don't need Americas help. It's time to take Israel at their word and cut them off. And seeing how Iran hasn't started a war in a couple of hundred years they won't be starting one anytime soon.
If you wanna blame anybody, blame Canada, we are the ones who developped and sold CANDU reactors to those middle eastern nations anyway.
Originally posted by CALGARIAN
Originally posted by buster2010
What will Ron Paul say if war breaks out between Israel and Iran? It's their problem let them deal with it. He has said this many times and Benny has also said they don't need Americas help. It's time to take Israel at their word and cut them off. And seeing how Iran hasn't started a war in a couple of hundred years they won't be starting one anytime soon.
*sigh*
Ron said that he would go to war with a DECLARATION from congress.