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No you're projecting a superior attitude born out of ignorance installed in you by being fooled into believing that you're Gods chosen. There's a difference.
Here's news. If there is God it doesn't know who you are.
It knows life exists but you are not on its radar because you are just one of billions of things in its universe.
The FACT is that no one knows.
Originally posted by dontreally
reply to post by steveknows
The FACT is that no one knows.
It always irritates me when ignoramuses say that. It's such an easy thing to say. You do not work. You put no time in to study, and BAM - you think you're perfectly justified to say what only some intellectuals will say.
What about a Hindu? or a Gnostic? or Sufi? or a Kabbalist?
You're speaking from a very low perspective, so I feel it is my duty to come in and clarify some of the misconceptions people have about God.
God in his essence, we cannot know anything. God as He REVEALS Himself to man, i.e. in His emanations, we are more than allowed to speak of. What do you think religion is? It's based on a metaphysical revelation..
To just clarify for you. Metaphysics is high philosophy. It is ontology: The branch of metaphysics dealing with the nature of being.
Thus, the stories read in the Hebrew bible, or in other sacred books, the Quran, or the Bhagavad Gita etc, reflects an incredibly complex, and sophisticated panoramic evaluation of the universe. These metaphysics are initially based on a vision and later on developed by mystics into a metaphysical doctrine..
The archetypes - the "angels" of the Semitic cultures, or "devas" of the East, or "gods" of pagan times, are the principles and forces which extend this level of understanding to the human mind. The human mind thus becomes 'enlightened' because of an angelic revelation. In normal psychological terms, we call this an inspiration. In occultism, such inspiration can be induced - and hence, we know these principles are real, because we can make contact with them, and they, with us.
Back to the initial statement you made. God IS present in History. The generations listed in the book of Genesis, that all refers to an existential evolution of man through various levels of being. As man progresses through history, new elements of conscious are superadded to his already existing consciousness; we live to impart what we've learned to our children. And our children to their children, and so forth, through every generation until the end of This world. At the end of this world, a new, higher round begins.
Each aspect of humanity has received its own unique revelation, pertaining to its own spiritual frame of reference, depending on the part of the world they were born and the people they belong to. Each soul born into this world begins 'imprinted' by a spiritual power - a medium - or in Rabbinic language, a guardian archangel, which conditions the mind of man.
In China, a Chinese person thinks one way, and will respond in a way different from someone born somewhere else. His unconscious is activated, and conditioned, by different spiritual powers. Thus, different ideas are born in the orient than in Israel. And this is the same everywhere.
I never said other religions were wrong. I'm actually a proponent of the idea that all religions have a relative truth. But some religions, due to their proximity and universality i.e. the Hebrew Bible (which speaks from a universal perspective, a first man, the generations of mankind etc) as well as their spiritual and sociological situation in the world - Jerusalem (the nexus between 3 continents) have an overarching relevance to man.
I really dislike people who naively rule out God in his personal mode because God also exists and is related to in an impersonal way - like how the Hindus, Buddhists or Gnostics envisage God. That is only side. Remember, a created being is in no position to judge the essential value of one form of expression against another - even if that other is the negation of the former (non-being). Both being and non-being, to a human being, are the same. They are both important. Meaning, both God in his mode as creator, and God as he is inHimself, are relevant to the way man is to live in this world.
You should really not be like those teenagers who read 1 or 2 books and think its perfectly alright to just say to anyone - we can never know anything about God. Because it isn't true, and it's ignorant.
You just happened to run into somebody that doesn't tolerate that stupidity like others will. I will speak, and you can either listen, and maybe learn something, or retort something back.
Either way. My last post to you on this subject. As to speak beyond what I have said would be truly unwise.
Originally posted by Theophorus
The only way we as humans can truly know what something is, is if we are told.Other than that we simply must guess. This is true of God. The Bible tells us that God is a spirit. Next question should be,what is a spirit.