God's Use Of Tim Tebow

reply to post by Kingalbrect79


"Behold his mighty hand"....

More than a quote.... as all will see...

But I get what your saying, too bad it's a prevalent world view, look where it's got us...

Yes, religion has got us here as well, but not through Godly means, simply the means of mankind, using God as an excuse....

Que sera, sera.... in time we will know.....

Peace....

Star and flag OP.

I don't like football, I didn't know who tim tebow was until I came across "Tebowing." I love the "Tebowing" movement. He is brings people together of all types, with humor! I LOVE IT, and I am not being sarcastic.

reply to post by freetree64

Why is this? I have no explanation, save this, the Lord of Hosts is with Tim, and is using him, to share his word, and as an example, of what we all can be, if we simply follow truths, set down thousands of years ago, which, no matter what faith you believe in, are universal, and understood in all mankinds hearts. Ok, there I've said it..... I'll be ripped apart, in 3, 2, 1.......

Great thread! S&F. You are correct on this. Tebow is way more than his work on the field. I recently watched this short piece on him. Notice that his life is filled with examples of giving instead of taking. I have a theory on this:

If a person takes reward from life, a debt is created and suffering follows. Smoke and get cancer. Do drugs and lose the connection with family. Taking reward ends in suffering.

If a person suffers work (gives to others), reward follows for all involved. Work at a job and get a paycheck. Not only does the person working receive reward, but his family is rewarded. Suffering for others leads to reward.

Tebow is an example of selfless giving, working toward the ultimate reward of others. He takes this to a whole new level in simple ways. Reward is for everyone.

In the second video, he relates a story about placing John 3:16 on his face for a game. Within 24 hours of the game airing on TV, 94 million people googled John 3:16. That is a powerful witness. Would I need to Google the verse. Would you? Apparently 94 million do not have it memorized. What a witness to a life lived for others.

Originally posted by SuperiorEd
If a person suffers work (gives to others), reward follows for all involved. Work at a job and get a paycheck. Not only does the person working receive reward, but his family is rewarded. Suffering for others leads to reward.

Oh really? You might want to teach that to all the Republicans who think welfare is evil. All I ever hear is their complaining about how it is not right how they have to work more because someone else wont....

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Great reply, and thank you, not for me, but for the word which will spread, from this thread, and those "who read and understand" so to speak, let "me" disappear, as "he" reappears.....

Originally posted by aching_knuckles
Oh really? You might want to teach that to all the Republicans who think welfare is evil. All I ever hear is their complaining about how it is not right how they have to work more because someone else wont....

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Welfare is evil(but necessary for the time being as the government and the fed has cause the unemployment), but unneeded wars are also evil, and in this day and age we should be getting past war all together, it is outdated.

If the government was at the proper size, ended the drug war, ended foreign wars, and ended welfare, the income tax rate could be 0%, the state sales tax would come in to play to fund things we actually need. If we also ended the federal reserve and used currency that was based in something of physical value, then that would solve inflation which is a major thing that causes the wealth gap.

At this point, welfare wouldn't really be needed, any poor could be supported by communities and charity in the private sector.

But until all of that happens, people need welfare to get by.

so is it the fundamentalist version of christianity that tebow and his idolizers promote as the one true faith or do they embrace heterodox christianity or gnostic faiths as well?

Originally posted by aching_knuckles

Originally posted by SuperiorEd
If a person suffers work (gives to others), reward follows for all involved. Work at a job and get a paycheck. Not only does the person working receive reward, but his family is rewarded. Suffering for others leads to reward.

Oh really? You might want to teach that to all the Republicans who think welfare is evil. All I ever hear is their complaining about how it is not right how they have to work more because someone else wont....

edit on 16-12-2011 by aching_knuckles because: (no reason given)

One of the benefits of teaching in a small community is that I get to see the lives of kids extend beyond the years of their education. It is interesting to note the character of a teen as they progress through school and then compare this to the results years later. There are countless kids who are smart and talented who crash and burn later in life as a result of parents providing for their "needs" at every step. When real life comes, and it's time to work for reward, they fail utterly and end up living off their parents for years past high school.

We see this all the time in our own extended families. Unless a person is required to meet their own needs with meaning, the easy way out is the reward that is taken. Give a man the option of taking reward or suffering first for the reward, and too often, the reward that is easy is the path of least resistance. Welfare empowers and promotes people to take reward the easy way.

I also see the opposite happen. Many parents do the right thing when confronted with a teen running from responsibility. Instead of paying their way, they make them work while living at home. Instead of allowing them to keep their own money, they require the paycheck be deposited in an inaccessible account. Instead of wasting their money on long weekends, the funds are restricted to a savings account for a future apartment. Instead of allowing them to sleep until 1pm and stay up until dawn, they make them go to bed at 9pm and wake at 7am. Instead of allowing them to stay in the house all day, they send them out the door at 8am and require them to be back at dinner time. Eventually, the choice is made to find freedom and seek responsibility by necessity.

Welfare takes the necessity for work away in many cases. This takes a reward instead of filling a true need. For every person taking a reward, there are others missing their own real-world needs. This is the main complaint that most people have with welfare. We are empowering people to seek easy reward instead of suffering the work that life requires. Taking creates a debt.

I'll give you another example. I lived in the bootheel of Missouri for 3 years. On the first of the month, many of my students would be gone on a "family trip." The trip was to neighboring states to pick up welfare checks. You see, many of the residents of the bootheel will claim residency for a family member in neighboring states where other family live. They then go each month to claim their "assistance" checks. They then encourage their kids to have children as early as possible so they qualify for even more assistance. It's an endless cycle and we empower this by allowing it to happen.

You pay for this debt so someone else can live beyond their contribution to society. When reward is taken, a debt is required by someone else.