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Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by xuenchen
Pelosi is giving stupid people a bad name. Would someone PLEASE get grandma? She's gotten into the cooking sherry again!
I'd like to know how entitling people to stay unemployed creates jobs.
Originally posted by Subjective Truth
reply to post by xuenchen
The sad part is they need to extend them until the economy comes back around. If they do not extend them the economy will tank. And all they people crying about them getting the payments will also be out of jobs.
Think about how many people are living check to check every week. MILLIONS OF PEOPLE. The money comes back into the system as fast as it goes out. Without it watch the final cards at the bottom of the stack get pulled out. Also remember this is benefit for people that worked and lost a job.
Millions of people one check away from starving and loosing everything. When they do stop it the house of cards will come down.
Originally posted by freetree64
reply to post by Subjective Truth
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Originally posted by Subjective Truth
reply to post by xuenchen
I actually agree with you but I am looking at the big picture. If you stop the benefits the hole system will come crashing down. Until the Jobs come back they need to extend them.
It is not a pie in the sky theory it is a simple fact. Millions are living week to week earning 300 a week if it stops houses will go into foreclosure and banks will fail again. When people loose everything it is very scary.
Also you are wrong about the cards they have not all fallen yet. Look around you can see this with your own eyes.edit on 16-12-2011 by Subjective Truth because: (no reason given)edit on 16-12-2011 by Subjective Truth because: (no reason given)
OK, maybe the house of cards is only half fallen.
A new look at U.S. census data painted a stark picture today of poverty. It showed nearly one in two Americans are now in poverty or classified as low-income. The Associated Press said that is more than 146 million people, up four million from 2009. The increase is due partly to pay cuts, reduced work hours and loss of jobs.
The Civilian Conservation Corps (CCC) was a public work relief program that operated from 1933 to 1942 in the United States for unemployed, unmarried men from relief families, ages 18–25. A part of the New Deal of President Franklin D. Roosevelt, it provided unskilled manual labor jobs related to the conservation and development of natural resources in rural lands owned by federal, state and local governments. The CCC was designed to provide employment for young men in relief families who had difficulty finding jobs during the Great Depression while at the same time implementing a general natural resource conservation program in every state and territory. Maximum enrollment at any one time was 300,000; in nine years 2.5 million young men participated.....
Despite its popular support, the CCC was never a permanent agency. It depended on emergency and temporary Congressional legislation for its existence. By 1942, with the war industries booming and the draft in operation, need declined and Congress voted to close the program.
Pelosi: Extending Unemployment Benefits Would Create ‘600,000 Jobs’
Originally posted by xuenchen
Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by xuenchen
Pelosi is giving stupid people a bad name. Would someone PLEASE get grandma? She's gotten into the cooking sherry again!
I'd like to know how entitling people to stay unemployed creates jobs.
Boy is She ever !
I thought I was "'Da Man" ?
Well.....time for a beer and pizza......
I'm with ya son .... let's head out...
Unemployment - Need or Scam
Last year the demand for our construction services, to our delight, was as they say "going through the roof" to a point where were turning down more work than we were accepting. Frustrated that we could not be available to the potential new clients that were calling on us, and simultaneously excited that this was happening to our company, since unemployment had broken the double digits marker. I decided we would grow, work to sign up as much as 40% more in total contracts, and hire up to 12 additional full time employees. Basically take advantage of our good fortune and get a small portion of our community back to work.
The plan was initiated, the additional contracts were signed up and then we set out to hire the employees. Little did I know that attempting to hire the employees needed, which I had thought to be the easiest part, would turn out to be a nightmare if not impossible. I'm sure that reading this you will be almost as surprised as I was directly experiencing it.
My experience: Before 2009 if our company advertised for an open position, on average we would get 20 to 30 applications, interview six to eight of the applicants, and hire one or two, based on the quality and potential of the candidates. This process has been deteriorating dramatically since 2009 and now at the end of 2011 it has completely hit bottom. Of all the applications that we have received this year, when asked why they were seeking a job with us, one out of three answered: my unemployment is running out and I have to go back to work. Earlier this year after I hired two new full-time employees, went through our company's orientation process, fitted them with our work clothing and booked them to start within a week, they both quit. One called ahead of the start date to apologize but wanted to inform us he would not be coming in because the government had just extended unemployment benefits again. The second one just did not show on his first day and when I called him he said he couldn't come in now because unemployment had been extended and he was making almost as much as we were planning to start him out with. If this is not frustrating enough to those of us that provide jobs and pay taxes let me give you my last two attempts this year. Both times we advertised in various media at great expense. The first time only seven applicants came in, I set up personal interviews with two for potential hiring, neither of them even showed up. The second time with six applicants, I set up interviews with four, one called in to cancel the interview, one did not even show up, two actually came in, though one was late. To summarize (in case you missed the math) of the last six people that I called for interviews for potential full-time employment only two came with one being late. It is more than frustrating, it's perverted.
Our government is considering extending unemployment benefits again soon. The final absurdity might be that extending unemployment is the only thing that both the Democratic and Republican majorities both agree on.
My personal position is one of reality. Those who are unemployed and verifiably work every day to find some kind of employment, but are unsuccessful, should receive unemployment benefits for a substantial period of time. However, the unemployed who are collecting dishonest benefits via the hard working tax payers, should be arrested.
Thus I'm asking the government to start verifying and policing the unemployment department. Support those really in need. Kick out the rest and allow us to put people back to work.
Dan Harrison
Harrison Construction, Inc.
Marietta
Those of you insane, far right hard asses who want to see people that have worked hard all of their adult lives, but are going through a rough period right now, be left with nothing better be careful what you wish for. You are asking for your precious American society to come crashing down all around you.
Remember, this is not WELFARE. These people have worked for these benefits. A lot of Americans have worked decades non stop and now are receiving these benefits because their job has been shipped overseas and or what have you. Are these the people that you really want to pull the rug out from under?
Lumping Malcolm X in together with Obama and Eric Holder? That's a new one.
Quite ignorant, don't you think? Or is it because all three of them are black?
Originally posted by Indigo5
reply to post by xuenchen
Unemployment benefits is the 3rd from the bottom.
It's not an idealogical argument. It's a historical, statistical fact. Economics.
edit on 16-12-2011 by Indigo5 because: (no reason given)edit on 16-12-2011 by Indigo5 because: (no reason given)