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Topic started on 15-12-2011 @ 02:51 PM by WarJohn

How does high cholesterol kill?

If I eat nothing but four Jimmy Dean sausage buscuits with egg and cheese daily, will I die from the cholesterol in the product?

What would I die from more than likely from the heavy eating of said product?...Stroke or heart attack?

The product has in it:

Serving Size: 1 Sandwich (128g)
Servings Per Container: 1
Amount Per Serving
Calories: 440, Calories From Fat: 280

Total Fat

31g

48% (% Daily Value)

Saturated Fat

11g

55%

Trans Fat

3g

Cholesterol

120mg

40%

Sodium

850mg

35%

Total Carbohydrate

27g

9%

Dietary Fiber

1g

4%

Sugars

5g

Protein

13g

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reply posted on 15-12-2011 @ 02:53 PM by Miraj

reply to post by WarJohn

If I remember right it contributes to hardening of the arteries or the clogging of them.
I think the cholesterol scare is slightly over blown, but not entirely so. I try to scarcely eat breakfast meats like sausage and back (one/twice a week).

You'd be more likely to die of a heart attack.

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reply posted on 15-12-2011 @ 02:56 PM by Chewingonmushrooms

Genetics, lifestyle and outlook in life will certain play a role. Those sandwiches are quite nasty that's for sure and will reek havok on your system if you continue to eat them.

reply posted on 15-12-2011 @ 02:57 PM by bluemooone2

It dosent.
Not really. What it does do is patch leaking veins and arteries.
Without it you would bleed to death internally.
The real problem is the brittleness (for lack of a better word) of some peoples circulatory system, and that is mostly caused by a lack of vitamins.

reply posted on 15-12-2011 @ 02:58 PM by ThinkingCap

Someone's a little compulsive about their eating habits.

You know Jimmy Dean is processed meat right? (Feces, gall bladders, intestines, ligaments)

I'm a big meat eater too, but man, you gotta mix it up a little bit.

reply posted on 15-12-2011 @ 02:59 PM by angeldoll

reply to post by WarJohn

there are many factors that come into play, such as your age, weight, and any other possible health concerns.
If's that all you eat, then you won't die from high cholesterol, but you are also being starved of many other nutrients. A simple blood test can gage your cholesterol level. Sausage is not good for you, it's too full of fat.

Cholesterol and fat clog you up and kill you by heart attack or stroke. You'd be better off to eat one of the fortified cereals. So if you are young and healthy, this diet won't hurt you for now, but you shouldn't sustain it for long. Start eating like a grown-up. Buy a salad.

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reply posted on 15-12-2011 @ 03:05 PM by KAIARAHI

Our liver produces all the cholesterol we need so really we sholdn't ingest any extra (in an ideal wold)
For some we produce higher amounts so some have naturally higher cholesterol than others.
Cholesterol causes plaque to build up in our arteries, this never goes away and builds up.
My understanding is high cholesterol is one of a few conditions that raise ones risk on heart disease along with the likes of obesity, lack of excercise, smoking, bad diet etc.
The supposed ideal range is 4-6 I think, over 8 gets them worried, I have a mate at 11 and is healthy as though, but you never know what his arteries look like and i guess its the type of problem that can happen at any time.
There are natural products one can use to help lower or reduce cholesterol, I'd work on the other factors first or as well as.
It's important we have cholesterol ! but not too much.

reply posted on 15-12-2011 @ 03:59 PM by chr0naut

reply to post by WarJohn

The theory WAS that cholesterol builds up plaques (fatty deposits) in the arteries and reduces the flow of blood by blocking (either partially or fully) the arteries.

This definitely occurs but may not be the end of the story as far as heart attack goes.

Heart attack is usually caused by the electrical rhythm of the heart (the sinus rhythm) being disrupted, which causes the heart to pump poorly, or not at all.

At its minimum, this disruption is called arrhythmia, at its maximum, it is called defibrillation. When your heart rhythm is in defibrillation, you are not conscious and are dying. It is way past a heart attack (angina).

Cholesterol does not affect the sinus rhythm (as far as anyone knows) but cholesterol build ups have been observed in many cases of those suffering heart attack.

The reason is that cholesterol is the body's attempt to protect the heart and arteries from inflammation (usually caused by infection). By capping the inflamed area, the cholesterol inhibits the spread of the cause of the inflammation, allowing the immune system to deal with the problem.

The thing is, inflammation DOES affect the sinus rhythm! This means that cholesterol plaques actually PREVENT heart attack.

They are a symptom, not a cause.

Even so, things can go way out of control and continued successive episodes of inflammation can cause a significant and health threatening reduction of blood flow due to plaque build up.

The other thing that you need to know about cholesterol is that there is nothing better at dissolving the plaque build-ups than cholesterol like fats themselves.

Hence, simply reducing cholesterol in the blood is NOT going to protect you from heart attack. The best advice is a balance of diet and exercise.

If your cholesterol is high, reducing it to a "normal" level is OK. If it is normal, don't reduce it, it's OK. If it is low, supplement your diet with foods that contain cholesterol (and other fatty acids).

reply posted on 15-12-2011 @ 06:04 PM by AriesJedi

A quick and easy test you can do is put some spit on a pH test strip. It needs to be slightly alkaline about 7.5 and above as salivary amylase works best in alkaline pH.

Anything pH 6 and lower (=acidic) and inflammation will be a problem. The quickest method I can find to rectify an acidic pH is a daily calcium, magnesium and Vitamin D pill. With plenty of fruit and veg but don't stop eating protein or milk. I've heard of bicarb of soda too.

I have done this myself so I know it works. It is well known that magnesium deficiency causes the body into a high anti inflammatory response such as asthma, excema and coincidentally high cholesterol.
This is because too acidic blood will literally punch holes in blood vessel walls. It will also interfere with hormones in blood plasma, which affects the whole body.

BTW trans fat are the nastiest ingredient in your sausages, these are carcinogenic and will rob your body of Vitamin E which a deficiency of will give you more wrinkles in the least and in the most you can rob your heart muscles of oxygen and then can lead to heart attack.

SO a varied diet with a supplement, is what is best.

My mother in law lived off cheese on baked potatoes nearly everyday for 6 months and she became really ill and half her hair fell out, which sent her to a nutritionist. She then decided to have a varied diet.
A few years later she died of liver cancer (but we did find UV fluorescent lights and mould and TV dinners in the freezer that were cooked in a microwave.)

Peace

reply posted on 16-12-2011 @ 03:56 PM by Miraj

reply to post by AriesJedi

How the hell did you bring pH and Amylase into this?

I swear, someone needs to burn those health food sites to the ground because of the plethora of in-accurate or bad information they give off.

I sincerely hope you get sued for offering health advice when this guy increases his pH and goes into metabolic alkalosis.

reply posted on 16-12-2011 @ 04:14 PM by snarfbot

it clogs your arteries, like peanut butter. if it blocks the blood sufficiently it will cause cells in the area to die of oxygen deprivation, if this happens in the brain its a stroke, if it happens in the heart its a heart attack.

it could also start in the leg or something, you would probably feel pins and needles in the area, but the worry is that the clot could dislodge and wind up in the brain or heart where it could kill you.

which reminds me to start exercising.

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