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Ex-Pentagon official: Captured spy plane seems fake

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posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 09:42 AM
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Ex-Pentagon official: Captured spy plane seems fake


www.usatoday.com

The former official, who saw video footage of the drone on display in Iran, said not only is it the wrong color, but also the welds along the wing joints do not appear to conform to the stealth design that helps it avoid radar detection. The official requested anonymity because he is not authorized to release information on the drone matter.
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posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 09:42 AM
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Something has bugged me ever since I saw that Drone on display by Iran.

It doesn't look very stealth to me. The grill on the front looks like it came off my refrigerator.

Could it be that we landed that drone filled with corrupt files and misinformation. I really think something else is going on here.

Or, our drone program is not very well thought out...

www.usatoday.com
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 09:48 AM
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Thank you! I took one look at that thing and couldn't help but think that it looked like a frickin paper-mâché plane.



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 09:49 AM
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Oh come on, the drone is as real as real can be.


That is our official story and we're sticking to it.


Actually, it doesn't matter now.... Mission already accomplished.




posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 09:53 AM
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This occurred to me as well. But, according to a dark secret place radio show it isn't that hard to take control of the drone signal. You just need a stronger signal to take its place and some time to figure out frequencies. I would hope that someone would be smart enough to try and pull off what you propose. My guess is that this is just another costly, embarrassing mistake made by our "betters".

thedarksecretplace.com...



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 09:53 AM
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I noticed this as well when I saw the footage. The grill in particular. Since its made in America, it probably has all kinds of cheap plastic parts that came off when it crashed. So it could be that the drone is just glued together for show.



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 10:03 AM
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I was thinking this could be some kind of Trojan horse sent by the US because at the very least i would expect there to be some kind of self destruct mechanism on a sensitive piece of technology like that.



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 10:06 AM
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The grates are to cover the rotating fan blades of the engine which would being a flat perpendicular surface reflect the radar signal increasing it's radar return.

The grates reflect the incoming radar waves away from the source and why the are angled.

The F-117 also uses angled grates over the engine air intakes for the same reason.

Peace



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 10:08 AM
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In the footage the bbc is showing, you can see clear packing tape on the wings. It does look rather slapped together.



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 10:10 AM
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Iran has alot of public support right now , with many people not wanting to attack it .


Heance why they arent a parking lot right now.

Do you really think iran wants to take any sympathy away and fake this to show the world of deception ?


NO .


I do not believe iran would play such games with the world over a silly little toy and tarnish their reputation further more.


Everything "seems fake" if you word it correctly.



If i was Iran i would hand the drone back to U.S To continue their illegal spying and air space violations as a gesture to the world .


Double standards usa can have its toy back , while the world watches them continue to break international laws



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 10:17 AM
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Maybe it was a patsy drone



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 10:25 AM
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Watch this video of the Boeing Phantom Ray unmanned airborne system. Pay attention to it while it is on stage. Ehen different color lights hit the aircraft it seems to change color. Its gray its yellow its purple its pure white its all the same aircraft just it reflects the color tone which surrounds it. Now what does this Ex-Pentagon official have to say about it does not look the correct color for stealth?
www.boeing.com...

Now look at the pictures from the captured drone.
Its white.

Its yellow.

Its pure white.

Its green.


Bad thing is now I have to call in a drone strike per Dick Cheney because you now know to much.

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posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 10:32 AM
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That's why he is ex- pentagon he knows nothing



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 11:02 AM
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Originally posted by whyamIhere


Something has bugged me ever since I saw that Drone on display by Iran.

It doesn't look very stealth to me. The grill on the front looks like it came off my refrigerator.

Could it be that we landed that drone filled with corrupt files and misinformation. I really think something else is going on here.

Or, our drone program is not very well thought out...

www.usatoday.com
(visit the link for the full news article)


Ive said the same thing as well about how it looks and possible motive. I still think its some elaborate setup that we were hoping the Iranians would blindly stumble into. As others pointed out the color is wrong, construction doesnt look right.

* - An aircraft that contains self destruct ability, yet not blown up.
* - An aircraft that we supposedly lost control of, yet it was able to land while suffering (on outwards appearence) no damage.
* - Internal systems still apparently functioning to the level Iran could try to download / deconstruct the craft.

As I said in another thread it would not suprise me if the "drone" were a fact and intentionally allowed to fall into Iranian hands. I would wager that the thing has some hidden GPS / tracking ability built into it. With it being one of our most advanced craft, chances are they would take it to one of their main research facilities, possibly a facility we dont have an exact location of.

I would also wager that any functioning computer systems on board, which Iran will analyze, would probably contain another computer viruse.


Even the explanation given as to why, if it is real, we didnt blow it up makes no sense. The administration was worried about taking an action that could result in confrontation? Hello...... violating national airspace for spying purposes could be considered causus beli.

Other factors to support the fake argument -
The government not seeming to care it was captured.
The government not seeming to care about reverse engineering.
The government not seeming to care that there is a possibility of compromising other drones / operations of drone.


The clincher for me -
The government asking for it back??!??

Other coincidences -
In November there were 2 "unexplained" explosions at 2 key nuke sites in Iran.
A few days after the latest explosion, the drone "goes down"



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 11:13 AM
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Originally posted by Xcathdra
As others pointed out the color is wrong, construction doesnt look right.

* - An aircraft that contains self destruct ability, yet not blown up.
* - An aircraft that we supposedly lost control of, yet it was able to land while suffering (on outwards appearence) no damage.
* - Internal systems still apparently functioning to the level Iran could try to download / deconstruct the craft.


Other factors to support the fake argument -
The government not seeming to care it was captured.
The government not seeming to care about reverse engineering.
The government not seeming to care that there is a possibility of compromising other drones / operations of drone.


The clincher for me -
The government asking for it back??!??


What is hilarious to me, is that the Iranians were so excited to have this "drone" that they got all stupid (predictably so) and lost all skepticism, never stepped back to ask any questions, or consider any of the points made in your post above.



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 11:20 AM
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I was one of the first ones to call it on the original post.

I said it was either fake ... or the cheapest stealth drone i have ever seen ... or possibly a trojan horse type drone.



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 11:25 AM
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reply to post by milkyway12
 


Do you have any evidence to support these claims?



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 11:28 AM
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What happened when the stealth helicopter went down. Did it self destruct? No! The guys wired it with explosives and blew up what they could. What did the US do after the tail section was left behind. They asked forit back. They know China got to look at it. The know Pakistan did to. But did they bomb the place? No! And Pakistan was not on good terms with the US after they just proved that they had OBL living next to their version of the Pentagon for years. And the US had even done quite a few things most people don't realise they did. Like a hit on the man who owned the house a week before the raid. Blowing up the power station for the town to create a black out for the raid. Shooting down several aircraft during the raid.

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 11:43 AM
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Originally posted by Fractured.Facade
Oh come on, the drone is as real as real can be.

That is our official story and we're sticking to it.

Actually, it doesn't matter now.... Mission already accomplished.


Well.

Let's try deductive reasoning here...

The recent publicly available Sat images of the Plant explosion in Iran was taken by a commercially available Satellite and dispersed all over the web and media. So, How is it that high quality images of a supposedly secret installation can be almost instantaneously released to the public?





Yet, We are to believe that the US needs to fly a drone into Iran to observe their covert activities at other locations?

Seems like a plant. The Drone IMO was a test to see just how well Iran's Air defense would react to the intrusion of it's Airspace. Let's be real here for a second. Drones by their nature are expendable. The Pentagon damn well knows that nothing is "fool proof" and may fall into the oppositions hands. Would they really put some of the "Higher Technology" at risk? Or would they use a stripped down version [In case it was captured] to probe Iran's air defense capability?

Keep in mind it was supposedly shot down/captured [Whatever the case may be] over 150 Miles inside Iran & The US isn't really "Demanding it's return" all that vigorously either. As a matter of fact YAWN So far only one or two statements to the affect.

Mission accomplished.
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posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 12:09 PM
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Reference the last picture in your post. Did you place the red circle or was it there when you snagged the pic? If possible do you have a link to the article that contained the photo? I am curious as to why the circle is there. It looks like its highlighting damage but im not sure.


The other thought process on this is a bit out of left field, but I will put it out there anyways.

What if this is nothing but an internal Iranian issue designed to shore up support for Ahmedenijad against the mulahs? Relations between the 2 groups is pretty bad, with Ahmedenijad have a few of his cabinet ministers arrested and several other policy shifts over ruled and squashed by the top turbin...

Maybe the stealth drone is an internal distraction? We know the shape is supposedly one we use, but everything else about it doesnt fit. Maybe this is Irans attempt to shore up support at home against the west? Prepping them for a possible attack? Might as well get the fervor started now rather than later.

There is already discussions taking place about the fall of the Syrian government and the impact it would have on Iran (which is basically isolation).


As far as the comment about the drone destruct ability and the tail of the stealth copter. Drones have self destruct ability, the chopper does not. The drone is autmoated where as the chopper is not.

Different tools for different jobs...
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