Originally posted by Danbones
reply to post by grubblesnert

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please
links references.....something scientific?
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do i detect a certain amount of paranoiac tendencies in some of these anecdotal opinions?

in america lead vaccinationas are considered a two way street BTW

edit on 15-12-2011 by Danbones because: (no reason given)

"We can grow the virus in tissue culture, and this particular protein stays behind in the culture cells when you extract the virus," explains Brown. "So you can make a vaccine from that virus, inject it into livestock, and the animals' immune systems won't make antibodies against that particular protein because it wasn't present in the vaccine.

"But if an animal has been infected with FMD virus, that protein will have been present, and you will find antibodies against it in the blood. So, to differentiate between an animal that's been vaccinated and one that was actually infected with FMD virus, you could run tests to check for antibodies against that indicator protein."

Brown and fellow ARS microbiologist John F.E. Newman are also looking at the creation of a vaccine that uses only a string of some 20 amino acids from the virus—just enough of a taste of the virus to jump-start the injected animal's immune system into producing enough antibodies to neutralize the virus. This prototype vaccine has effectively protected cattle against FMD in field tests in Argentina, Brown says.

The purpose of vaccination is to protect your pet from potentially fatal infections by pathogenic (disease-causing) viruses such as distemper, rabies, and others. The way this is done is to inject either a killed virus or a 'modified' (non-pathogenic) live virus, which sensitizes the immune system to that particular virus. Thereafter, if your dog is exposed to, let's say, parvovirus, s/he will be able to respond quickly and vigorously, producing antibodies to overcome the infection.

In summary, there is a great deal of evidence implicating vaccination as the cause of many serious chronic health problems. For this reason, I do not recommend vaccination for dogs or cats.

In particular, I strongly recommend against vaccination for Feline Leukemia in cats, because (a) it is not very effective, and (b) I have found that vaccinated cats that subsequently contract the virus are much more likely to die from it. I also recommend against vaccination for Lyme disease and kennel cough in dogs, again due to lack of effectiveness, and the fact that these conditions are generally not very serious. As such, the potential harm of the vaccine is not justified.


In all fairness, the choice to forgo vaccination for your pets does carry some risk. Your puppy could contract parvovirus, for instance, which that particular vaccine is effective in preventing. Fortunately, parvo is generally quite easy to treat homeopathically. Distemper and infectious hepatitis are rarely seen anymore.

Originally posted by TinkerHaus
reply to post by tetriswoooo

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If you don't care if your puppy lives a long and healthy life, then don't vaccinate.

If you had ever seen a dog sick with parvo you wouldn't be asking ATS whether or not you should vaccinate your dog. I agree that many vaccinations are unnecessary, but rabies, parvo, and lyme can and will kill. Protect your friend.

Ask yourself this question: If your puppy contracts parvo in 14 months and dies, how guilty will you feel knowing it's your fault for not vaccinating?