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Nearly 20% of women in the US are raped, study reveals

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posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 05:43 PM
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Originally posted by Bob Sholtz
reply to post by HappyBunny
 



Wearing jeans and a sweatshirt doesn't protect you. A lot of women dress that way BECAUSE MEN LIKE IT and because when you're competing with other women, jeans just doesn't cut it. I'm not saying it's right, but if you guys didn't respond to it, we wouldn't dress like it. Simple as that.

this is one of the causes. you enjoy the attention that men give you when you show lots of skin, then you wonder why you get treated like a sex object. if you're looking for a lasting relationship with someone who will love you, dressing like a slut won't get you there. he will think you just want sex, because of the vibe skimpy outfits give off.


On one hand I do agree with you. And it's mostly younger women who don't have the self-confidence or the experience to realize that if they want a relationship, that isn't the way to go about it. Young women really do think that the only way to get a guy to like you is to actually be a sex object. That's also why so many of them consent to sex before they're ready--they think the guy won't like them if they don't.


there's a reason you hear of sluts having lots of sex, but no steady relationships. you'll find what you were looking for.

i prefer women who don't show so much, because those that do obviously have attention issues, so how do i know they won't go looking for attention from others if i go out with her? there are plenty of ways to let a guy know you're interested besides being a tease.


I agree. Personally I was never comfortable dressing that way. I don't like being leered at and I know it's going to happen. But I will admit that I do dress in a way that flatters my figure while covering all the essential parts.I have a true hourglass figure and I don't mind showing it off--but the key is to be classy about it. I don't see anything wrong with that. A lot of men dress in such a way that emphasizes their arms or chests or whatever. It's the same thing.

Not to mention that once you hit 40, you know you're not going to have that figure for much longer so enjoy it while it lasts.
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posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 05:45 PM
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Originally posted by Bob Sholtz
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i also know a few girls with rape fantasies. three to be exact. one of them had been raped when she was little, but the other two didn't have any trauma like that to cause issues. one of the others ended up getting "raped" later (complete tease/slut) and she enjoyed the attention/pity everyone gave her, so she ended up looking for situations where she would get raped (true story) so that people would give her attention because of it.

i'm sure she would say that she's been raped, but i wouldn't call it that.


According to Buss, it's one of the most common fantasies for men and women both. But to put yourself in that situation because you think it's fun...there's something wrong with that, IMO.



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 05:53 PM
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Originally posted by HappyBunny
According to Buss, it's one of the most common fantasies for men and women both. But to put yourself in that situation because you think it's fun...there's something wrong with that, IMO.

I'm not sure that "rape" is the word we're thinking of here. Maybe "rough sex" would be more like it.

To me, rape is where the victim does NOT want sex, but his/her aggressor forces him/her against their will.



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 05:58 PM
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Originally posted by Hydroman

Originally posted by HappyBunny
According to Buss, it's one of the most common fantasies for men and women both. But to put yourself in that situation because you think it's fun...there's something wrong with that, IMO.

I'm not sure that "rape" is the word we're thinking of here. Maybe "rough sex" would be more like it.

To me, rape is where the victim does NOT want sex, but his/her aggressor forces him/her against their will.


Good point. I think I misunderstood what boymonkey74 was saying.



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 06:02 PM
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Check the corresponding videos to the right on Youtube's site.

Women lie about being raped without any consideration whatsoever about the after effects, indeed, the act of being raped is worn as a badge of pride by many Women.

In Canada it's called the "Silver Bullet", when a Woman accuses her Husband of rape or of child molestation, in order to deprive him of his children and to make him suffer.



I understand the honest Women in this thread will be incensed by my opinion, but for those of you with common sense, try to understand the implications the accusation of rape brings. Many men have committed suicide over the simple accusation placed upon them, which is often viewed more horrible than murder.

The claim of "rape" is used too often without just cause.



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 06:10 PM
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Originally posted by GeorgiaGirl
I'd guess that most rapes are not the dark alley/malicious stranger type; most are people who the victim knew and trusted. Think date rape.

Unfortunately, the number (20%)doesn't surprise me at all. And it's true--it is REALLY hard to get over, especially when the victim knew and trusted the person.


I agree, however I think it's all about a state of mind, really. I was raped a little over a year ago, and since then I've been in two other relationships, sex included. Yes, it took some time to get over, but for the most part I'm perfectly fine.
It was the 6 years of verbal abuse that's scarred me for life, however.
My experiences are totally backwards from the norm.



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 06:18 PM
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I don't know, I just don't want to believe that all of you gals have been raped. My faith in humanity is dwindling. I guess I've been numb to the fact that this happens so often.



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 06:20 PM
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My bet is the real statistics would be higher than 30% considering a majority of women don't come forward.



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 06:27 PM
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Originally posted by Hydroman
I don't know, I just don't want to believe that all of you gals have been raped. My faith in humanity is dwindling. I guess I've been numb to the fact that this happens so often.


I don't blame you for not wanting to believe us, however, you should at first then do investigating.
With mine, it was my ex from last year. We dated for a month, I had never had sex before (Never wanted to, really), and I was staying the night at his house. We were getting a little intimate, and he kept pushing it too far and trying to have sex. I said no over and over yet he didn't listen. Placed his hand over my mouth and 'did the deed'. I was stranded at his house for the night, and dumped him the next.
Never reported him, though. He wasn't worth the trouble.

Sometimes hearing the person's story helps you determine if they're telling the truth or not.



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 06:48 PM
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Originally posted by Hydroman

Originally posted by GeorgiaGirl
I'm even having a hard time clicking on the "reply" button here, to tell you the truth. Do I want my story out there? Even though none of you know me, it's hard to admit to this.


I truly appreciate your response. Do you feel any better for speaking about it?

It seems to me that almost every woman who has posted here has been raped, or had some kind of traumatic experience. This is shocking to me. I have two daughters of my own, and I don't know what I will do if something like this happens to them.


The scary thing for you as a dad is that you will probably never know. My dad doesn't. No one in my family, other than my husband, does. Truthfully? I'm embarassed.

Do I feel better? No, I actually feel a little queasy. It's been over 20 years. Mostly, I don't think about it for long stretches of time, and then something will pop it back up, like this thread today.



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 06:51 PM
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I'm not sure what's scarier... That these obviously BS numbers are being reported, or that people actually believe this. I can't imagine the type of mindset that would believe this.... He or she must have a downright psychotic view of men. There is a war against men going on.

If you are a man, and you were ever thinking about leaving the United States, now is a good time.



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 06:59 PM
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Not to sound all ultra conservative, but a simple double wall system would work. No sex until marriage, and a gun in the side bag if you refuse.

If you are willing to wait that long, it proves patience with the woman's will, and respect.

These archaic behaviors certainly had merit to them. I for one obey them.
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posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 07:03 PM
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I would have thought the number to be higher than 20%. I majored in Criminal Justice and the accepted number at the time was 30% to my recollection. I also have a number of female friends and family members and the number is probably closer to 60% among them.


"Victim blaming" is holding the victim of a crime to be in whole or in part responsible for the crime. In the context of rape, this concept refers to the Just World Theory and popular attitudes that certain victim behaviours (such as flirting, or wearing sexually-provocative clothing) may encourage rape.[35] In extreme cases, victims are said to have "asked for it", simply by not behaving demurely. In most Western countries, the defense of provocation is not accepted as a mitigation for rape


I'm pretty disgusted with members here that would blame a woman for getting raped because she was 'asking for it'. That being said, of course some women do intentionally put themselves in these situations, or consent and then accuse someone of rape but come on guys. The majority are wives, friends, and mothers. Know six women? One of them was raped.


One of six U.S. women has experienced an attempted or completed rape.[79] More than a quarter of college age women report having experienced a rape or rape attempt since age 14


So around 16% in 1999 and considering it is BY FAR the most under reported crime I would put that number much higher.

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posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 07:07 PM
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I just took my own survey using the phonebook and none of the women who would answer me admitted to being raped. I guess that's as acurate as any other survey out there.



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 07:08 PM
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I just don't buy those numbers. Is it just a few men doing the raping or is it 20%30%60% of men who are raping women?
By saying its 60% of women have been raped or nearly raped it must mean a big % of men are rapist's. Nah we are not all that bad.

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posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 07:12 PM
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It makes sense that 20% of women would be raped. Most college men want to get with any women they can and as many as they can, and I've seen drugging incidence. They are cruel people. So much that a single man could probably cause up to 10 women to be slept with, ad perhaps 4 of those incidental rapes. If it's just a 1:4 ration, that only means it would take 5% of men.

The number of men are quite low. But like a predator, they don't stop with one.



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 07:14 PM
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It is sad but true that you were correct. If I randomly count 6 women I know, one was sexually taken advantage of, and you might as well call that rape.

Essentially, there are bad men out there.


The only way to stop it is by confronting your fellow man. When young men joke about "how many women they raped", you punch that guy in the face and tell him to shut the f*** up. It's not something that is cool to talk about.
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posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 07:14 PM
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I'm not sure. If we assume that women and men are 50/50 population wise, and say the number of women raped is 20%... then at the very most 20% of men would be rapists. Rapists are generally repeat offenders though so the actual % of men that rape/have raped is probably WAY lower than 20%. Assuming that a woman is raped by only one person that is.


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posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 07:20 PM
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Wait.

You just randomly started calling women and asking them if they were ever raped?

If you're serious, you're a very demented person.



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 07:21 PM
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i have tried to raise concern about this many times, as for the crimes in public places there are step one can take to avoide this potentialy happening,

Dont go walking in areas with little population such as rural areas, lane ways, dark street with little to no residential housing, dont walk on main roads or high ways, dont go to clubs pubs and bars with stragers or go home with one, do not meet up with people off the internet unless you have notified someone you trust, tell them who the person is, where their from, what time and where you will meet them as this makes the police's job of prosecution easier and locating you if you are missing easier, more inportantly take someone with you and get a idea of the person you are meeting and see what your friend thinks of them in a honest opinion and when out drinking put your hand over your glass when you are not watching or using it to prevent drink spinking, alcohole and druggs are one of the main things that make victims more vunerable.

Sadly scociety especially amongst males has evolved to the stage where influences like pornography and provocative clothing are a everday aceptance, provocsative clothing entises male urges and with primitive instinct and the mental desires pornography and also media enduces into the mind, rape is more likely to happen now days due to scocial and pornographic evolution. Its a shame that the female body is so easy to intrude upon physically and also for males obviousley but more so for females due to the intrusion physically, the result is not only physically traumatic but also mentally, im sure you can imagin how bad it must feel, especially for a woman who has a rape baby as its called, having that constant reminder is a heavy burden, and suicide usualy follows rape victims in mental trauma, there is also the amount who a murdered, but most inportantly there are sousal assults, these MUST be reported, people need to think, well who will be next after me, put a stop to it by reporting it to police as time is not only against you and your wellbeing but other potential victims too.

Lastly i would like to say all people wether male or female should look into anti rape devices, there is some good ones from the UK that can be purchased that release a tracable substances on the attacker for police ultravioolate light to be able to track down the offender, a alarm of around 120db and a unplesent odour, you need to email them and have a check done for your state to see if the item can be allowed, the product is trident personal defence alarm, i have had trouble contacting them but they do have a contact number and the product is around $40, but is a worthy investment, women can also buy anti rape condoms wich insert into the vaginal cavity and is fitted with sharp teeth encased within the device but will not harm the user but will sure harm the offender.

Lastly, look at crime statistics for the area you live in and if you really want, move to a area with lower rape statisitcs and higher population densitiy. or lower population but high density residential area, its allot better then rurual and soarse areas where you cannont render help.

Lastly: No woman deserves to be raped no matter what she is waering or who she is, men should be able to control their urges and control their penisis, you only end up being a low form of life who cannont get laid because of your sick and demented treatment of women so instead you rape them to feel bdetter aboout your self, there might be girls who dress slutty for attention but that doesnt mean that all are slu*ts and want to be raped, its the same as lesbian women, pornography and genral male scociology treats them like a fantasy, so instead of being repsected as two people inlove, there treated like sex objects and in worse cases are raped for being not attracted to men, this is usualy caused by gelousey and the feeling of inadiquacey of the male ego, unfortunatly males and some females have elvoved to a level of diviacey, im sure if a global study was done men would be the likely most offending sex of rape then females, and same with murders.

I do appoligise to all the good men out there who have respect and are not a buch of deviates.
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