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Originally posted by xFloggingMaryx
Rape is wrong in any context. But I have seen women make unbelievably stupid decisions that just set them up for danger, and that is certainly not a smart decision. Whenever I go to a club, I look at my fellow women dressed in... well, things that I wouldn't even consider to be clothes. And the way they dance... I mean, my God. A few weeks ago, I watched a group of scantily clad women bent over the bar table (like, bent in a right-angle) with men humping them from behind. And apparently, THAT'S considered dancing. It was so graphic, for all I know, there was actual penetration going on.
But unlike a lot of guys here... I'm not going to say that those women were "asking for it" if anything bad happened to them later in the night. Although they certainly weren't acting responsible - no one "asks for it" when rape happens. That's why it's "rape".
But of course, you don't have to be dancing around like a promiscuous trollop to get targeted. For example, that same night, I was wearing jeans and a tank top, just hanging out with friends on the sofa in the corner of the club. And yet, I still managed to get something put in my drink. I'm just lucky I don't go places like that alone (and I don't go often).
As for the men who do the raping... usually they are just sick perverts. But I'm sure there is the occasional "normal guy" who got mixed signals from a woman. I mean, using the clubbing scenario above: perhaps one of those women, bent over, letting a stranger grind her... ended up going home with the guy. Of course, in that situation, the man is going to try and make a move. After having a women bent over in submission letting him dance up on her all night - what else is he to think? Is he going to think of her as a strong, respectable woman that he wants to take out on a date before trying anything? Or is he going to see her as an "easy lay"?
The woman wasn't portraying herself as a respectable person. So obviously the guy is gonna try something. Of course, I'm not saying it's either right or wrong for the guy to try and get some. But the minute the woman says, No, the guy should back off immediately. It becomes rape when the woman says "No" and the man keeps going. And more often than not, that's what happens. These women act like that in the clubs and then get bothered when the men they are dancing with want to go back home with them to "finish the night off".
It's just confusing to me, as a woman. Why act like that if you aren't looking for sex? Just to tease men? That's not responsible. I mean, when I'm dancing in the club... and a man starts getting a little too close. I back off and go over to my friends. I don't want to give him ANY kind of wrong idea.
Obviously, if they end up getting raped... it's not their fault. But... they would have been much much safer acting more responsible in the first place!
And that's just my opinion about those who dress promiscuously and physically rub up against male strangers. I'm sure I'm not the only woman here who thinks that that behavior is asking for trouble. (Key word, "trouble". They're asking for trouble not asking for a violation... no one asks to be violated or raped).
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Whenever I go to a club, I look at my fellow women dressed in... well, things that I wouldn't even consider to be clothes. And the way they dance... I mean, my God. A few weeks ago, I watched a group of scantily clad women bent over the bar table (like, bent in a right-angle) with men humping them from behind. And apparently, THAT'S considered dancing.
Originally posted by brokedown
All I can say is Baloney!
In no way is 20% of the females in the US a victim of Rape.
edit on 12-15-2011 by Springer because: DON'T try to circumvent our vulgar language censor.
Originally posted by brokedown
There were an estimated at 84,767 forcible rapes reported to law enforcement in 2010. This estimate was 5.0 percent lower than the 2009 estimate and 10.3 percent and 6.7 percent lower than the 2006 and 2001 estimates, respectively. (See Tables 1 and 1A.)
The rate of forcible rapes in 2010 was estimated at 54.2 per 100,000 female inhabitants.
Rapes by force comprised 93.0 percent of reported rape offenses in 2010, and attempts or assaults to commit rape accounted for 7.0 percent of reported rapes. (Based on Table 19.)
FBI statistic is 54 women in every 100,000 women are raped.
That is a far, far cry from the OP statistic of 20,000 of 100,000
FBI reported statistic is .054 percent of women in the US are rape victims
I think the FBI has a better handle on crime than most anyone else
edit on 15-12-2011 by brokedown because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by Hydroman
If I had daughters, I would move to a remote island and never see civilization again.
I'm only half kidding, I don't know how I would deal with it. It is so scary, so, so, so scary. It is also scary to think of all the landmines my boys could walk into with false accusations, or real accusations, or child support, or so many other modern day problems. 100 years ago a shotgun wedding was the solution to most problems, but nowadays it is so much more complicated.
And, I know this is a sexist opinion, but in my eyes something like Jerry Sandusky is even more frightening than a regular rape. I just can't imagine a grown boy of age 10, 12, 15 being forcibly raped by a grown man? I know it is traumatic for girls, but it has to be even more crushing for the developing ego of a pubescent boy that sees himself as a young man. How can he ever look at himself as a man again after that?
Originally posted by primus2012
Think there might be a motive to pad the numbers on a report about the unbelievably-high incidence of rape?
Originally posted by Adamanteus
Obviously You haven't read the thread, Getreadyalready has stated that close to 100% of women(in his age group) he knows have been violated in some way, I have stated that I am guessing 85-90% of the women I know have been sexually assaulted. I can guarantee 50% from admission the other 35-40% have either went silent, got this far off look and stated no angrily or just got up and walked out of the room while saying "I don't want to talk about it." Only a handful have stated no with what I consider a mature and intelligent response to a question which leads me to believe the others may have not been comfortable talking about it.
Do You really think women want to talk to men about being raped by other men?
Originally posted by yaluk
reply to post by Billmeister
is this Lifetime where men are terrible and they will hurt you??
I find it hard to believe it is that high... is it including all those Screwball women who say yes then after the deed they decide to cal itl rape??
and if women do not want a certain kind of attention DO NOT DRESS LIKE A PROSTITUTE... it is pretty simple
last night I was talking to a friend who has a **** me outfit... it is not the first time i have heard this...
it does not excuse men at all but no one puts a gun to the head of women on adult films and magazines. heck they are even proud of it saying it is empowering...
in films and print women portray themselves as pieces of meat to be lusted over. Young women follow suit and then are surprised when men act out what they see on film and print.
If you do not want to be treated like a wh*r* do not dress or act like one. it is pretty simple.
Not all rape are a result of this but this has a lot to do with it.
when will women start acting like women again... it's even getting to the point where men have to become picky because of how wh*ry women are today.
edit on 15-12-2011 by yaluk because: (no reason given)
MONTPELIER, Vt. (AP) — A University of Vermont fraternity has been suspended while school officials, national organization leaders and police investigate allegations that a survey was circulated among members asking them who they would like to rape.
Originally posted by Billmeister
Now can we discuss the root cause of such a high level of violence, and potential means of countering it?
Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to post by Billmeister
A rapist rarely strikes once. Have confidence that this means only, perhaps, 10% of men are like that.
Originally posted by nahsik
Wouldn't be surprised by this.. I know a lot who go clubbing and get drunk and get groped and sexually assaulted in the progress.
Wearing jeans and a sweatshirt doesn't protect you. A lot of women dress that way BECAUSE MEN LIKE IT and because when you're competing with other women, jeans just doesn't cut it. I'm not saying it's right, but if you guys didn't respond to it, we wouldn't dress like it. Simple as that.