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Originally posted by 547000
reply to post by NowanKenubi
Hebrews 10: 26 For if we deliberately continue to sin after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 27 but only the terrifying prospect of Judgment, or raging fire that will consume the enemies.
What I find interesting is one his left hand is condemnation and right hand is mercy. What happened with the thieves will happen with the world in judgement.
Originally posted by EPH612
Originally posted by BeforeTheHangmansNoose
reply to post by SuperiorEd
So essentially the thief took all power and responsibility away from himself and put it somewhere else? Sounds like a wise man.
I wouldn't exactly say that. The thief took responsibility for his sins, and asked for forgiveness from God because only God has the power to forgive sins. The thief accepted he was going to die a sinner and the power had always belonged to God.
Originally posted by Unrealised
I have often asked this to holy men, and am yet to get an answer.
"If Satan finally or for some reason realised the error of his ways (no matter how proud he is supposed to be) and asks God for forgiveness, will it be granted?"
Originally posted by ThrowCatsAtCacti
Is it too late for me to find salvation after I deficated on the bible, cross, preists, vatican, pope and started a fire on the wood fence of heaven
"There there, daddy forgives you".
Originally posted by BeforeTheHangmansNoose
So again, he took all power and responsibility from himself by letting god save him.
So if a man kills 5 people, goes into hiding for the rest of his life, its ok because while he was hiding, he realized what he did and decided that god can fix his problems?
I cannot comprehend why you would need someone or something else to pat you on your head, give you a sip of warm milk and send you on your way. "There there, daddy forgives you"
Originally posted by britelite1971
reply to post by SuperiorEd
Thanks brother for the good message! Although the message may be rejected by some now it may come back to them later at just the right moment.
Originally posted by EPH612
Originally posted by BeforeTheHangmansNoose
So again, he took all power and responsibility from himself by letting god save him.
So if a man kills 5 people, goes into hiding for the rest of his life, its ok because while he was hiding, he realized what he did and decided that god can fix his problems?
I cannot comprehend why you would need someone or something else to pat you on your head, give you a sip of warm milk and send you on your way. "There there, daddy forgives you"
Once again, he didn't take any power from himself. The thief wasn't the one with the power, God was. The thief never had the power. God is the only one with the power to forgive sins. You can't take something from yourself that you've never had. And he didn't give the responsibility to God, the thief took responsibility for his actions and accepted the earthly consequences.
And if the man who kills five people genuinely repents to God for his actions, then God will forgive him. It's not that God fixes our problems, He forgives our sins. The murderer would still have to take the earthly consequences for his actions, but God has forgiven him. God wants to forgive us of any and all sins. And it sounds like you're assuming murder is worse than other sins. Whether you're a liar, a murderer, or a thief, it's all sin. And God cannot abide ANY sin. But if we ask for forgiveness, God doesn't hold our sins against us. To Him, it's almost like it never happened. But we still have to take the earthly consequences for our actions.edit on 12/15/11 by EPH612 because: (no reason given)
How can a person of Hebrew descent read Isaiah 53 and not realize already?
Originally posted by SuperiorEd
Originally posted by ThrowCatsAtCacti
Is it too late for me to find salvation after I deficated on the bible, cross, preists, vatican, pope and started a fire on the wood fence of heaven
The gate is very narrow. You must examine yourself and recognize the need for salvation. Apart from seeing our self in light of God's righteousness and humbling the soul, salvation is far removed. As Paul Washer points out, there are even many who call themselves Christians who are equally lost in the world. "Conversion is not like a flu shot." God begins a good work in us unless we deny that He can or will. It's always a choice to embrace or deny truth.
The truth is not that you dedicate on on the world, but that you choose to do this to yourself. Jesus offers a way past depravity and sickness of the soul.
The thief was paying for his life of crime by being crucified on the cross, surely thats punishment enough.
Originally posted by dflogan77
The thief was paying for his life of crime by being crucified on the cross, surely thats punishment enough.