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Obama: "Where Congress Is Not Willing To Act, We're Going To Go Ahead And Do It Ourselves"

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posted on Dec, 16 2011 @ 01:31 AM
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Originally posted by xuenchen
Can the POTUS enact a balanced budget by ex. order?

If he could, would he?

Will he sign the controversial "Defense Bill"?




We will be lucky to even see a budget -- the Senate has shelved anything remotely close to a budget (regardless of how bad it may or may not be). But remember Immaculate's words -- its the do nothing Congress that is causing the rise and need of a dictator to get us through these dark and terrible times.




posted on Dec, 16 2011 @ 09:35 AM
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Originally posted by xuenchen
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He is talking about improving the economy!

Through what powers the President has...NOT over-ruling Congressional authority.

Unless you would like to now claim that CONGRESS has sole authority over improving the economy???


 


Again, the 111th Congress AND the POTUS together, in unison, had the chance of a lifetime to correct the economic problems during the 2009/2010 sessions. The Dems controlled all the committees and the White House at that time.



You mean this congress??

Majority Does Not Rule in Filibuster-Filled 111th Congress


As the 111th Congress hurtles to a close, more and more bills are dying despite receiving majority votes in the Senate, and in some cases, the House as well.

With congressional Republicans looking forward to controlling the House and a larger chunk of the Senate, GOP senators are wielding the threat of a filibuster with a vengeance.

At least eight major pieces of legislation have been entirely halted by filibusters in this Congress—six since September, including three in the past 10 days alone—although each bill received more than 50 votes in the Senate. Five of those eight passed in some form with a majority vote in the House before failing to achieve a “super majority” vote in the Senate.


111th Senate Breaks A Filibuster Record
tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com...

CNN poll shows Americans blame GOP for obstruction and lack of compromise
www.examiner.com...

Absent the 2/3 majority to over-ride the historically unprecedented number of Fillibusters the GOP employed during the last session of congress, the Democrats DID NOT control congress.

The GOP fillibustered EVERYTHING.

To claim that the Democrats "Controlled" congress is disingenius at best.

You can claim..."The Democrats had a slight majority", but Control?????????

We can be honest, cant we?

I am not saying that the Democrats could have "fixed" the economy, but lets at least be honest about what happened. It wasn't subtle...the GOP proudly and publicly declared they would oppose the Democrats on everything and they followed through with more fillibusters than any other session of congress since our founding.



posted on Dec, 16 2011 @ 07:54 PM
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um, well, ok.

we can concede the filibusters and attempts.

Can we also see exactly what those bills would have achieved for the majority of citizens?

positive or negative.

a comparison would be nice.

can you point some out to us?

The point still is;

the 111th could have solved all the problems.


edit on Dec-16-2011 by xuenchen because: (no reason given)

edit on Dec-16-2011 by xuenchen because: (no reason given)



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