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Originally posted by Chewingonmushrooms
Freaking disgusting. I signed the petition and left this on the comment box:
This is outrageous; all who are for this bill will see the effects of their actions in the very near future. If you are considering signing this bill, think once, twice and a third time before you seal the coffin on the USA. Be a true patriot and do what you have been elected to do: Represent the will of the people. This is the land of the free and home of the brave, do not for a second doubt that last part.
Just posted this on facebook which I almost never get on (I know I know).edit on 14-12-2011 by Chewingonmushrooms because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Throwback
Can someone please quote the specific text that allows for indefinite detention of American citizens? I'm looking at the revised bill that passed and I all I see is language that excludes Americans citizens.
From H.R. 1450, section 1032:
(b) APPLICABILITY TO UNITED STATES CITIZENS AND
18 LAWFUL RESIDENT ALIENS.—
19 (1) UNITED STATES CITIZENS.—The requirement
20 to detain a person in military custody under this sec-
21 tion does not extend to citizens of the United States.
22 (2) LAWFUL RESIDENT ALIENS.—The require-
23 ment to detain a person in military custody under
24 this section does not extend to a lawful resident alien
25 of the United States on the basis of conduct taking 422
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1 place within the United States, except to the extent
2 permitted by the Constitution of the United States.
And this, also from H.R. 1450, found in section 1031:
(e) AUTHORITIES.—Nothing in this section shall be
20 construed to affect existing law or authorities, relating to
21 the detention of United States citizens, lawful resident
22 aliens of the United States or any other persons who are
23 captured or arrested in the United States.
Also there is this provision that, if I am reading correctly, will make sure that a system of checks and balances will be in place, making sure that the executive branch doesn't act unilaterally:
(f) REQUIREMENT FOR BRIEFINGS OF CONGRESS.—
25 The Secretary of Defense shall regularly brief Congress re-420
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1 garding the application of the authority described in this
2 section, including the organizations, entities, and individ-
3 uals considered to be ‘‘covered persons’’ for purposes of sub-
4 section (b)(2).
This is what I found looking through the bill. Unless someone provides text from the bill that proves this is an evil bill, I think that the only people who should be scared of it are terrorists.
Originally posted by TheMur
I know 40 congress men and women that will be looking for new jobs the next election
I'm glad there is still a few good people left in Congress, perhaps even more than 40.
The criminals hiding amongst them/us are just trying to protect themselves for as long as they can, nothing exactly new here.
Originally posted by listeningintently2728
Everyone sign! We are already over 25,000 people and it keeps raising every few minutes! This is a petition to impeach the senators who voted for the bill!