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posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 12:08 PM
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Originally posted by zeeon
As I posted in the the other NDAA thread -

As a US Citizen and active member of the Armed Forces, I can GARAUNTEE you that if the POTUS declares martial law (or something like it) and orders me and my shipmates to start arresting citizens I will, as well as my shipmates pointedly tell him to "F" Off. We Military swore to uphold the Constitution as written not this crap they are trying to get away with now.


Thank you. I hope others have the courage to follow you footsteps.

On one hand I want to say that Americans are strong willed people who will fight and not let it happen, but did the Germans say that too? Maybe our education on history will help prevent us falling in the same trap




posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 12:11 PM
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I got taken in by them too, in the beginning, in the 90's and early 00's. It really should have clued me in when they changed the symbolic color scheme around the 2000 election. Suddenly, what had been blue was now red, and what had been red was now blue. No explanation for that was ever offered, they just did it - and RED has been the color of the "left" ever since there has even BEEN a "left".

That should have clued me in.

Then the same fine folks brought us the Iraq Invasion and the patriot Act. I raised hell, but it did no good. Neither of those actions made any sense at all - in any kind of honorable way - and neither was what one would expect of a "conservative". I walked away from the Republicans, and never looked back. As far as I was concerned, THEY had abandoned ME, not the other way 'round, and they've never shown any signs of returning to being a conservative party, so I'm done with them. For good. No way in hell anything they could do at this point would convince me to go back to that party.

The "left" is doing exactly the same sort of nonsensical things, in a continuation of what the neocons did. Bomb Libya - nonsensical. Pass this - against all the opposition. Nonsensical. Pass "Health Care", against all the opposition. nonsensical. The only difference is that I expected it from them. Didn't see it coming from the false opposition.

There's not a nickle's worth of difference between the two, even adjusted for inflation.

Now the "Republicans" are running a field of neocons. Note well that at least two of their front runners are "reformed" democrats.

"Reformed" my ass. Just more of the same. Not a nickle's worth of difference.

The only choices presented by the majority parties this election cycle are what used to be called "left", but are now just more of the same. Doesn't matter which label you vote for, if you vote for either of the Big Two, you're going to be voting democrat.

Still, the labels are useful to the puppet masters to keep people divided and thinking there is some sort of difference, to keep them at one another's throats, preoccupied ("Pre -Occupied"?) and unaware of the fact that whoever they vote for, they're going to get the same damn thing.

While the chorus sings, the band will play on.



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 12:14 PM
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The loop hole is large enough to label the Wall Street Bankers as terrorist ... lock those crooks up!



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 12:17 PM
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LOL - You can't counter the facts, so instead you resort to fifth grade insulting! Bravo! You just showed how much of a sheeple you really are.



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 12:19 PM
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Originally posted by JiggyPotamus
I never paid much attention to the theories involving the Obama administration wanting to turn our country into a socialist state, but this does now seem to be the end goal of the administration. This is VERY scary stuff, and if you aren't concerned I hope that you are the first one to be rounded up and shipped off to a "residential center."


I am unconcerned as hell. Supremely unconcerned. This is what these people have BEGGED for, no point in whining now that they're getting it. I promise I won't be rounded up and shipped to any "residential center", "reeducation camp", or any of the like..

You can take that to the bank - whichever bank you choose. I hear Goldman Sachs is giving free internment camps with every new account opened. You know, what with all the bailout money from both sides of the aisles, they can afford to give more than a crappy toaster now.









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posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 12:21 PM
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Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
We were never not under martial law:

Respect for its authority, compliance with its laws, acquiescence in its measures, are duties enjoined by the fundamental maxims of true liberty. The basis of our political systems is the right of the people to make and to alter their constitutions of government. But the constitution which at any time exists till changed by an explicit and authentic act of the whole people is sacredly obligatory upon all. The very idea of the power and the right of the people to establish government presupposes the duty of every individual to obey the established government.”


George the tyrant Washington telling us to obey or else and we should like it because the mob rules and tough if you dont like it.

This nation was free for all of a week before it collapsed into tyranny.

We like to act shocked when things like this happen but the truth is that this new tyranny we see is just more of the same.


You're misreading that quote sir....

He's stating that ALL people are required to follow their constitution unless a genuine change to the constitution is made. Any law that congress passes that violates the constitution is therefore those people NOT following the constitution which they have a duty to uphold and then the people have a right to enforce the following of the constitution by those people.

Jaden



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 12:21 PM
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Congartulations! You're a potential Terrorist!
That's right.
You're now a suspect and no proof at all is necessary
for the establishment to implicate you and throw you into the hooch for as long as they want. And the best news is all you have to do is sit and wait until this incredible offer knocks on your door in the middle of the night because you're the lucky dissident. Winning contestants qualify by asking questions,disagreeing,protesting,pointing out facts,owning a gun,pointing out criminal activities of your leaders or simply believing in liberty for all and a limited government.
Each lucky contestant will be closely monitored by our state of the art monitoring capabilites or numerous paid informants( please contact for opportunities in the informant industry as we're currently hiring)
You'll get a lifetime stay in the fabulous Guantanamo Bay all expenses paid!! Are you an American citizen who has the right due process and other pesky civil liberties??
NO PROBLEM...we've got it covered.
You'll have 24 hour a day access to our wonderful waterbaording room where you'll be given the latest torture techniques for FREE!
Come dine on gourmet prison food 3 times a day( number of meals a day may vary).
Our masseuse will gently easy those kinks out of you
with a high quality polymer nightstick GUARANTEED NOT TO BREAK!
Don't worry this offer is unlimited and will not expire. So don't forget to tell your friends and don't forget to tell on your friends!!
We can only monitor so many potential winners we may need your help to let us know of everyone and anyone you think is a deserving prize candidate!
Good Luck we'll see you soon!

Right on schedule for making that "change" everybody wanted so bad.
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posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 12:30 PM
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Originally posted by mrsdudara

On one hand I want to say that Americans are strong willed people who will fight and not let it happen, but did the Germans say that too? Maybe our education on history will help prevent us falling in the same trap



Uh, don't look now, but it happened. Where was the American "strong will" while it was happening? They were too busy being entertained by bickering over false partisan divisions to pay attention or get together on a coherent response.

The only "fight" left at this point is to wait and see if the roundups ever materialize (I got my doubts there, but it's possible, I suppose) and not be taken alive.

That's it. That's all you have left. make 'em work for it, and give 'em nothing at all in the end to show for all that work.



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 12:41 PM
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People saying "YOU are not going to be locked up" are probably right. For now, at least, no one is going to get locked up. The government isn't stupid, even if they are pretty well evil - they are going to pass this law, everyone is going to be up in arms about it, and then when nothing happens for a while, everyone who was on the fence about it will say, "This is fine, if you're not doing anything wrong don't worry about it!" I mean, seriously, that is exactly what happened with the Patriot Act. Everyone forgot it happened and few are still actively concerned about wire tapping and non-probable-cause warrants. we think, "The Patriot Act is in the past, something ol Bushy did" - no, it's something that Congress did, and a good many of the people who were in Congress under Bush are still there now, and the Patriot Act has continued to be extended and enforced.

So it's my hypothesis that nothing major is going to happen directly following this act. The smartest thing to do is to let people forget about it. It's almost Christmas anyways, people are going to have holiday cheer and New Year's resolution and new cars and gadgets and other useless s**t, and next year, people are going to continue living normal lives. Maybe a couple terrorists will be prevented, for a day or two the news will talk about them, and say things like, "Current legislation really helped us catch these terrorists. Where are all the naysayers now?" Then we'll continue to forget. The year will pass. It could be a year, it could be a couple years, it could be ten years before it's obvious that the wrong people are getting arrested indefinitely.

So yeah. People can be calm about this. If you're the type of person to be calm about these things, you're not in danger anyway, not now or in the future. If you are up in arms about this, however, you're the type of person who should be worried because you'll be the first of the wrong terrorists to go.

Honestly, I'm more terrified of our current government and corporations than I was ever terrified of terrorists. Terrorism is the biggest scam of my short lifetime. Car crashes kill more people than terrorists ever have or will - but we're not afraid of cars. Why should we be afraid of poor brown turbaned guys who live in the desert, have no money, have no infrastructure, and get funded by governments that are funded by the US? I'd be more afraid of the rich white elites of this country who control every aspect of our lives without us even realizing it and who continue to enable terrorism around the world, as well as enabling obesity (so we can't run away), apathy (so we don't want to run away), and materialism (so even if we could and wanted to run away, we wouldn't be able to because we are tied to our electricity and computerized life that is controlled by the elites). the War on Terror is the biggest scam, and it surprises me that more people don't see through it and realize, "Wait a second, terrorists aren't actually nearly as dangerous as I thought they were! the real danger is coming from within..."



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 12:47 PM
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I was not referring to myself.
I was referring to all people.

I look at the entire picture - that involves everyone.
You seem to have a different view.

You seem to know what is going to happen and who it is going to happen to. You are not a paid operative and there are none on this site. I am not going to be affected? This thread is about fear mongering? I thought this entire website was for open discussion and exchange of opinions, ideas and information.

How do you know so much?
Only a paid operative might know as much as you?
When you tell another poster to quieten down - it makes you look very arrogant and in my experience arrogant people are usually covering their fears.

Much Peace...



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 01:03 PM
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Originally posted by zeeon
As I posted in the the other NDAA thread -

As a US Citizen and active member of the Armed Forces, I can GARAUNTEE you that if the POTUS declares martial law (or something like it) and orders me and my shipmates to start arresting citizens I will, as well as my shipmates pointedly tell him to "F" Off. We Military swore to uphold the Constitution as written not this crap they are trying to get away with now.


i was checking out the forums at military.com and didn't see any discussion of the bill, please get the word out amigo and bless us all the American People and Military.



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 01:10 PM
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Too bad there isn't a good consistent definition of terrorism.

Otherwise it might not seem so bad.

Since terrorism is pretty much used to mean anyone the current bureaucrats/politicians/press say are, and certainly not people they say aren't, this becomes a law that indeed can apply to anyone.

You make political comments online? You commit a crime? Terrorism.



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 01:13 PM
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Originally posted by Skydancer
The loop hole is large enough to label the Wall Street Bankers as terrorist ... lock those crooks up!



This is exactly what I posted in another thread.

A law like this cuts two ways.

The idiots that passed this bill are not exempt from its furry.



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 01:19 PM
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Originally posted by Amanda5
I do not live in America and do not recognise some of the people mentioned in threads of a political nature. Can someone help me understand the current political situation regarding martial law.

Has martial law actually been enacted by your government?
as soon as obama signs NDAA, essentially, yes.

If so - did the American people have any say in it?
No.

If not - why not?
Because, frankly, the american people have been lulled to sleep by controlled media, pharmaceuticals in the water, and our own laziness and lack of vigilance. Exactly what the founding fathers were afraid of has come to pass. and, as a black man, let me say this: Obama's blackness was used as a shield to insulate him from the kinds of criticism, or actions, that could have been taken to prevent this. If nothing else, I've learned exactly how evil political correctness can be.


Judge Napolitano - supposedly not aligned with the government and trying to wake people up - how do they gain unedited air time when the media is owned and controlled by known cabal/illuminati/whatever associates?

Even msnbc has it's undercover right-wingers. appearances, appearances..

Am interested in this American political situation because I care that people will be caught up in something that sounds quite immoral and evil - not unlike the Nazi regime - we can never go there again it would be unthinkable.

Thank you in advance to anyone who can help me understand.

Much Peace...
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posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 01:23 PM
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Goodbye America (USA), it was nice to know you. I have genuinely enjoyed and have stood in awe of your magnificent beauty and (mostly) good and wonderful people, and what might have been the greatest opportunity of all time, to lead the world into a greater era of enlightenment, but didn't. Thank you, for having shown me how deception works and what it does to human beings. Thank you, for having taught me how not to act in the face of peril, by giving me reason to take the unconditional effort to accept and understand the difference of insight of my opponent. Thank you, for having opened my eyes to what is real and wat is false. Your role has, in part, been crucial to the full awakening of my soul, and my being able to turn my back and go my own way, away from your ever-rumbling growls of agression and wars with those who 'Know!'. Truth is embedded in the Lie, my friends. Hang in there!



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 01:36 PM
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Originally posted by LittleBlackEagle

Originally posted by zeeon
As I posted in the the other NDAA thread -

As a US Citizen and active member of the Armed Forces, I can GARAUNTEE you that if the POTUS declares martial law (or something like it) and orders me and my shipmates to start arresting citizens I will, as well as my shipmates pointedly tell him to "F" Off. We Military swore to uphold the Constitution as written not this crap they are trying to get away with now.


i was checking out the forums at military.com and didn't see any discussion of the bill, please get the word out amigo and bless us all the American People and Military.


Thats a great idea man, I will. I have already been telling everyone at work what the deal is. Word needs to spread fast. It's unfortunate that alot of the guys in the military are just as blind and confused as the rest of the populace. I don't know what can be done to get these people to SEE?!



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 01:38 PM
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Originally posted by Rockpuck
reply to post by ReadyPower
 


We have one hope: Elect Ron Paul and the Judge for President/Vice President. Otherwise the consolidation of power among the corrupt oligarchy will only continue and intensify.


Mr. Paul will have to hire some special security force to protect him. I wouldn't trust the secret service with his safety. Just not sure who would be able to protect him, we all know what happned to the last president to stand up against these people.



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 02:27 PM
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Originally posted by Rockpuck
reply to post by ReadyPower
 


We have one hope: Elect Ron Paul and the Judge for President/Vice President. Otherwise the consolidation of power among the corrupt oligarchy will only continue and intensify.

Amen to that. At this point, it certainly won't guarantee that we can turn it around, but it's certainly our best shot. If we don't elect him though, I'm (sadly) almost certain that we're done for.

That's not even fear mongering, unfortunately. It's becoming more apparent every day that less and less of this stuff is conspiracy theory; more like conspiracy fact.



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 02:28 PM
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I seriously doubt this is true. I'm going to go ahead and wait until I, or a neighbor of mine, is detained before I worry.

Even if this was true, I'm not turning in my neighbors. Ever. Unless he/she is actually breaking a legitimate law I recognize, then I'm not saying a damn thing to anyone. Not a single word. They've gotta be a pretty horrible person for me to rat them out. Call me what you will, but I'm not a tattletale.



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 02:35 PM
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Originally posted by 0cryptic0truth0
I seriously doubt this is true. I'm going to go ahead and wait until I, or a neighbor of mine, is detained before I worry.

Even if this was true, I'm not turning in my neighbors. Ever. Unless he/she is actually breaking a legitimate law I recognize, then I'm not saying a damn thing to anyone. Not a single word. They've gotta be a pretty horrible person for me to rat them out. Call me what you will, but I'm not a tattletale.


a joke?

What if your neighbor "rats" you out first? Maybe you better be extra nice to people from now on.

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