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Originally posted by DJM8507
Good thing I love the United States with all my heart and mind and soul and I support what the leaders of our beautiful country do for us! These laws are meant to protect and serve the people and I am so excited for them to go into effect so that we can truly be a patriotically peaceful nation to ourselves and the world as we defend American Ideologies for all to benefit from! I TRUST THEM WITH ALL MY BEING!!!
God Bless Americans! God Bless Obama!!! God bless our Representatives!
GOD BLESS THE USA! SUPPORT OUR TROOPS!! GO GET THOSE TERRORISTS!!!
In Jesus name, AMEN...
I am safe, not sure about the rest of you guys here on ATS though...edit on 15-12-2011 by DJM8507 because: (no reason given)
"Parsons was Winston's fellow employee at the Ministry of Truth. He was a fattish but active man of paralyzing stupidity, a mass of imbecile enthusiasms-one of those completely unquestioning, devoted drudges on whom, more even than on the thought police, the stability of the Party depended."
Parsons walked into the cell. He was wearing khaki shorts and a sports-shirt. This time Winston was startled into self-forgetfulness.
'YOU here!' he said.
Parsons gave Winston a glance in which there was neither interest nor surprise, but only misery. He began walking jerkily up and down, evidently unable to keep still. Each time he straightened his pudgy knees it was apparent that they were trembling. His eyes had a wide-open, staring look, as though he could not prevent himself from gazing at something in the middle distance.
'What are you in for?' said Winston.
'Thoughtcrime!' said Parsons, almost blubbering. The tone of his voice implied at once a complete admission of his guilt and a sort of incredulous horror that such a word could be applied to himself. He paused opposite Winston and began eagerly appealing to him: 'You don't think they'll shoot me, do you, old chap? They don't shoot you if you haven't actually done anything--only thoughts, which you can't help? I know they give you a fair hearing. Oh, I trust them for that! They'll know my record, won't they? YOU know what kind of chap I was. Not a bad chap in my way. Not brainy, of course, but keen. I tried to do my best for the Party, didn't I? I'll get off with five years, don't you think? Or even ten years? A chap like me could make himself pretty useful in a labour-camp. They wouldn't shoot me for going off the rails just once?'
'Are you guilty?' said Winston.
'Of course I'm guilty!' cried Parsons with a servile glance at the telescreen. 'You don't think the Party would arrest an innocent man, do you?' His frog-like face grew calmer, and even took on a slightly sanctimonious expression. 'Thoughtcrime is a dreadful thing, old man,' he said sententiously. 'It's insidious. It can get hold of you without your even knowing it. Do you know how it got hold of me? In my sleep! Yes, that's a fact. There I was, working away, trying to do my bit--never knew I had any bad stuff in my mind at all. And then I started talking in my sleep. Do you know what they heard me saying?'
He sank his voice, like someone who is obliged for medical reasons to utter an obscenity.
'"Down with Big Brother!" Yes, I said that! Said it over and over again, it seems. Between you and me, old man, I'm glad they got me before it went any further. Do you know what I'm going to say to them when I go up before the tribunal? "Thank you," I'm going to say, "thank you for saving me before it was too late."'
'Who denounced you?' said Winston.
'It was my little daughter,' said Parsons with a sort of doleful pride. 'She listened at the keyhole. Heard what I was saying, and nipped off to the patrols the very next day. Pretty smart for a nipper of seven, eh? I don't bear her any grudge for it. In fact I'm proud of her. It shows I brought her up in the right spirit, anyway.'
Originally posted by VitriolAndAngst
I like to use this bill as an example how the "Super Congress" and all the partisanship in Washington is a stage show.
>> Is it because they know something we don't -- or is it something more prosaic like; "Being worried that OWS calls for oversight means that their back-room deals with Delaware corporations might end their Gravy Trains"?
Good thing it's all LEGAL.
Originally posted by Semicollegiate
Originally posted by Amanda5
I do not live in America and do not recognise some of the people mentioned in threads of a political nature. Can someone help me understand the current political situation regarding martial law.
Has martial law actually been enacted by your government?
If so - did the American people have any say in it?
If not - why not?
Judge Napolitano - supposedly not aligned with the government and trying to wake people up - how do they gain unedited air time when the media is owned and controlled by known cabal/illuminati/whatever associates?
Am interested in this American political situation because I care that people will be caught up in something that sounds quite immoral and evil - not unlike the Nazi regime - we can never go there again it would be unthinkable.
Thank you in advance to anyone who can help me understand.
Much Peace...
We do not have martial law in the normal sence of the phrase. Appearently there is a legal structure that is not currently connected to any enforcement agency, (Nobody can use it) but it does exsist, according to Judge Napolitano.
We americans have a say in the sence that we elect the people who made the legal structure in question, but typically we have to vote for candidates selected and financially maintained by the system. Who knows how a candidate appears on a ballot? Something to do with the system liking him or her.
judge Napolitano is consistantly reporting and commenting the infringement and abrogation of constitutional laws by the government. I don't know why. High ratings make money, some people at the top are probably constitutionalist. Maybe he's a controlled burn so that the mainstream fire will have no fuel when it gets to him.
I'm sure his airtime is not unrestricted and whatever he says is less than what could be said. That is the nature of commercial and regulated media.
Originally posted by ccsct203
Where is the ACLU in all this???
Originally posted by DelMarvel
Originally posted by ccsct203
Where is the ACLU in all this???
The ACLU is on the same side as Rand Paul. They just usually don't get any publicity unless the right wing is complaining about some church/state issue.
www.thenation.com...
Originally posted by Cosmic4life
Welcome...
...to North Amerikorea.
We hope you enjoy your stay...indefinitely.!!
Cosmic..
Originally posted by Amanda5
Am interested in this American political situation because I care that people will be caught up in something that sounds quite immoral and evil - not unlike the Nazi regime - we can never go there again it would be unthinkable.
Originally posted by Screwed
Nail?
CHECK!
Coffin?
CHECK!
Hammer?
CHECK!
This was it folks.
The moment we've all been waiting for is here.
I wonder if Lady Gaga is going to ________
I can't wait to see Paris Jackson on T.V.
I feel so bad forDemi Moore after what the Kutch did to her
I think Brad should have stayed with Jen. That Angelina is no good for him.
This is what we're up against folks.
How do I know?
BECAUSE I LIVE WITH ONE!!!!!
Do you think my wife has one single clue as to what is getting passed?
Do you think she has any idea that the American people are being targeted as terrorists and can be arrested anytime for anything by an American soldier and held forever with no chrges EVER being filed?
Do you think she cares?
DO you think she's the only one??!?!?!?
Originally posted by DelMarvel
Originally posted by ccsct203
Where is the ACLU in all this???
The ACLU is on the same side as Rand Paul. They just usually don't get any publicity unless the right wing is complaining about some church/state issue.
www.thenation.com...
Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
We were never not under martial law:
Respect for its authority, compliance with its laws, acquiescence in its measures, are duties enjoined by the fundamental maxims of true liberty. The basis of our political systems is the right of the people to make and to alter their constitutions of government. But the constitution which at any time exists till changed by an explicit and authentic act of the whole people is sacredly obligatory upon all. The very idea of the power and the right of the people to establish government presupposes the duty of every individual to obey the established government.”
George the tyrant Washington telling us to obey or else and we should like it because the mob rules and tough if you dont like it.
This nation was free for all of a week before it collapsed into tyranny.
We like to act shocked when things like this happen but the truth is that this new tyranny we see is just more of the same.
Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
We were never not under martial law:
Respect for its authority, compliance with its laws, acquiescence in its measures, are duties enjoined by the fundamental maxims of true liberty. The basis of our political systems is the right of the people to make and to alter their constitutions of government. But the constitution which at any time exists till changed by an explicit and authentic act of the whole people is sacredly obligatory upon all. The very idea of the power and the right of the people to establish government presupposes the duty of every individual to obey the established government.”
George the tyrant Washington telling us to obey or else and we should like it because the mob rules and tough if you dont like it.
This nation was free for all of a week before it collapsed into tyranny.
We like to act shocked when things like this happen but the truth is that this new tyranny we see is just more of the same.
Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
We were never not under martial law:
Respect for its authority, compliance with its laws, acquiescence in its measures, are duties enjoined by the fundamental maxims of true liberty. The basis of our political systems is the right of the people to make and to alter their constitutions of government. But the constitution which at any time exists till changed by an explicit and authentic act of the whole people is sacredly obligatory upon all. The very idea of the power and the right of the people to establish government presupposes the duty of every individual to obey the established government.”
George the tyrant Washington telling us to obey or else and we should like it because the mob rules and tough if you dont like it.
This nation was free for all of a week before it collapsed into tyranny.
We like to act shocked when things like this happen but the truth is that this new tyranny we see is just more of the same.
Originally posted by 46ACE
Before Stimpy I thought:"We" (conservatives) were supposed to be the"good-guys"...Now I see it's not just an Alex Jones rant but "Oh-man" is overtly moving forward towards a tyrannical global govt.