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Originally posted by theovermensch
Originally posted by TheFlash
Originally posted by theovermensch
And there is nothing wrong with violence if it is warranted. Even Ghandi knew that. Was he mental too?edit on 16-12-2011 by theovermensch because: typo
Once again you show how wrong you and your thinking are. Keep 'em coming. Not that any more demonstrations are reguired to show just how nonsensical the things you say are.
"I cannot teach you violence, as I do not myself believe in it. I can only teach you not to bow your heads before any one even at the cost of your life."
Mahatma Gandhi
"I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent."
Mahatma Gandhi
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Text Text It is better to be violent, if there is violence in our hearts, than to put on the cloak of nonviolence to cover impotence. Mohandas Gandhi
Ha! Back at you Flash.edit on 16-12-2011 by theovermensch because: typo
Ever seen 'White Men Cant Jump' Flash? Remember this line?
Billy Hoyle-"It's hard work. Hard goddamn work making something this pretty look like a chump."
Its hard goddamn work Flashedit on 16-12-2011 by theovermensch because: typo
Originally posted by SaturnFX
Simply put ops.
You seem frustrated with something local in your life. What it is I don't know. Rough breakup, your girl cheated on you, you can't find a job and are suffering a bit of cabin fever, who knows. its your issues.
But you taking your personal frustrations and wanting a world to capitulate towards that is simply childish thinking. Let me explain why
1) nobody wants that. When I say nobody, that means the vast overwhelming majority of all nations..sure, there are anarchists in every nation, there are nazi's whom want to reinstall the riech, racists whom want to destroy anyone not of x color, etc...fringe nuts. They have always been part of society, they always will be
As you mature mentally (congrats if you do btw) you will shift towards a more mainstream "acceptable" version of your previous frustrated desires..aka, you personally will most likely become a hardline libertarian..and that sounds and resonates far better than anarchists, sort of the mature mindset of anarchist
2) Demonstrate in history any successful anarchist style government. any and every type of governmental style feasible has been tried. go Google anarchy governments and you will see small blips of anarchy through history and the basic horror stories that came from it..typically ending in violent lordship controlling the land by iron fist shortly after the anarchy. Either your on top, or your slavemeat.
Do you want no rules just for yourself, or everyone...something tells me your not so much wanting a release of all rules verses wanting to be the guy with the gun enforcing your rules...
Anyhow, the idea is childish, and if this truely is a core desire of yours, then you are destined to have a unsatisfied life here in the west...so, either move or alter your beliefs..unless you enjoy having fantasys. I personally want a technocracy, but I realize that won't happen anytime soon..not in my lifetime anyhow (not enough tech, and peoples mentality are too simple)
But do yourself a favor and at least try to use the "grown up" term for anarchy anyhow.
This is called "individual sovereignty" and although when you split the hairs, its anarchy, its laid out far more eloquent than just the ole anarchy in the uk oi oi type nonsense, and allows for a more meaningful dialog (although it ends in the same basic issues of lawlessness)
Until then, this conversation is akin to suggesting we let teddy bears run the world and everyone use rainbow guns of love on enemys. aka, nonsense talk by a child...but tell a child that and they will throw a tantrum (as you enjoy doing...yes, fine...you are not a virgin, my your defensive over that..)
Originally posted by TheFlash
Originally posted by theovermensch
Originally posted by TheFlash
Originally posted by theovermensch
And there is nothing wrong with violence if it is warranted. Even Ghandi knew that. Was he mental too?edit on 16-12-2011 by theovermensch because: typo
Once again you show how wrong you and your thinking are. Keep 'em coming. Not that any more demonstrations are reguired to show just how nonsensical the things you say are.
"I cannot teach you violence, as I do not myself believe in it. I can only teach you not to bow your heads before any one even at the cost of your life."
Mahatma Gandhi
"I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent."
Mahatma Gandhi
www.quotationspage.com...
Read more: www.brainyquote.com...
Text Text It is better to be violent, if there is violence in our hearts, than to put on the cloak of nonviolence to cover impotence. Mohandas Gandhi
Ha! Back at you Flash.edit on 16-12-2011 by theovermensch because: typo
Ever seen 'White Men Cant Jump' Flash? Remember this line?
Billy Hoyle-"It's hard work. Hard goddamn work making something this pretty look like a chump."
Its hard goddamn work Flashedit on 16-12-2011 by theovermensch because: typo
Yet again you display your ignorance. Gandhi is the figurehead of peace and non-violence in the world as the quotes I showed clearly demonstrate yet the one you show appears to the superficial glance to utterly contradict it, doesn't it? How can we account for this apparent discrepancy? The reason is clear - you are misinterpreting the quote. The ones I showed, many, many more and Gandhi's life itself all illustrate the man's charcter and beliefs. History shows what he accomplished through non-violent means. The quote you showed is Gandhi's way of telling people not to be false but to be who they really are. I'm sure he would feel sorry for those people who are violent in their hearts though he understood that was their nature. It was not his way but his quote illustrates his compassion, even towards those so different from himself. He was a truly wise man.
Here are a few more gems.
"Non-violence is the first article of my faith. It is also the last article of my creed."
"Victory attained by violence is tantamount to a defeat, for it is momentary."
... and here is one of my faves that goes hand in hand with the one you quoted!
"The only devils in this world are those running around in our own hearts, and that is where all our battles should be fought."
You got any more Gandhi quotes that support your point???
Did you ever see the James Bond movie Octopussy? Here is the quote that comes to mind:
"Game, set and match!"
Originally posted by theovermensch
Originally posted by TheFlash
Originally posted by theovermensch
Originally posted by TheFlash
Originally posted by theovermensch
And there is nothing wrong with violence if it is warranted. Even Ghandi knew that. Was he mental too?edit on 16-12-2011 by theovermensch because: typo
Once again you show how wrong you and your thinking are. Keep 'em coming. Not that any more demonstrations are reguired to show just how nonsensical the things you say are.
"I cannot teach you violence, as I do not myself believe in it. I can only teach you not to bow your heads before any one even at the cost of your life."
Mahatma Gandhi
"I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent."
Mahatma Gandhi
www.quotationspage.com...
Read more: www.brainyquote.com...
Text Text It is better to be violent, if there is violence in our hearts, than to put on the cloak of nonviolence to cover impotence. Mohandas Gandhi
Ha! Back at you Flash.edit on 16-12-2011 by theovermensch because: typo
Ever seen 'White Men Cant Jump' Flash? Remember this line?
Billy Hoyle-"It's hard work. Hard goddamn work making something this pretty look like a chump."
Its hard goddamn work Flashedit on 16-12-2011 by theovermensch because: typo
Yet again you display your ignorance. Gandhi is the figurehead of peace and non-violence in the world as the quotes I showed clearly demonstrate yet the one you show appears to the superficial glance to utterly contradict it, doesn't it? How can we account for this apparent discrepancy? The reason is clear - you are misinterpreting the quote. The ones I showed, many, many more and Gandhi's life itself all illustrate the man's charcter and beliefs. History shows what he accomplished through non-violent means. The quote you showed is Gandhi's way of telling people not to be false but to be who they really are. I'm sure he would feel sorry for those people who are violent in their hearts though he understood that was their nature. It was not his way but his quote illustrates his compassion, even towards those so different from himself. He was a truly wise man.
Here are a few more gems.
"Non-violence is the first article of my faith. It is also the last article of my creed."
"Victory attained by violence is tantamount to a defeat, for it is momentary."
... and here is one of my faves that goes hand in hand with the one you quoted!
"The only devils in this world are those running around in our own hearts, and that is where all our battles should be fought."
You got any more Gandhi quotes that support your point???
Did you ever see the James Bond movie Octopussy? Here is the quote that comes to mind:
"Game, set and match!"
Ha! I bet you have been on google for 15 minutes Get a life Flash.
Did you ask Gandhi about that quote?
He thinks you are impotent Flash.
Again in case you missed it- "It is better to be violent, if there is violence in our hearts, than to put on the cloak of nonviolence to cover impotence." Mahatma Gandhi quote
edit on 16-12-2011 by theovermensch because: typo
TextLike Gandhi I feel sorry for you people like you. It's especially sad this time of year. I bet that your parents are not so happily married, are they? Did they fight a lot when you were a little boy and did that make you upset and sad? Did your daddy smack you around too when he got angry? Yeah... I know... shhhhhhhhhhh... shhhhhhhhhhh... It's okay. Let it all out now...
Text 'You did not blow me out of the water!' 'You did not say things that I can not respond to in a sensible manner!' 'I'll just ignore the fact that you completely negated my point and repeat it as if it does not matter.' 'My hands are on my ears - I can't hear youooooooooooooooo' 'NAH-NAH-NAH-NAH-LA-LA-LA-LA.'
Text Like Gandhi I feel sorry for you people like you. It's especially sad this time of year. I bet that your parents are not so happily married, are they? Did they fight a lot when you were a little boy and did that make you upset and sad? Did your daddy smack you around too when he got angry? Yeah... I know... shhhhhhhhhhh... shhhhhhhhhhh... It's okay. Let it all out now...
Originally posted by Rezwar
reply to post by theovermensch
Robots rely on an economy to produce them and the economy in turn leads to the tech used to produce them. Your idea would essentially ignite a dark age. Technology would go backwards. No more robots to power your fantasy utopia. As far as I know there are no robots that can maintain themselves indefinitely. What happens when they break down? Who will fix them? Where is the manufacturing base that turns out the parts for new and broken robots, or the mining company that gets the raw materials? I could poke holes in your idea all day if I chose to. The universe follows laws, but man shouldn't? You seem like the you are your own god type. LOL anyway good luck with that.
Originally posted by TheFlash
reply to post by theovermensch
Wow. I'm really flattered that I am on your mind so much! Thanks but you should really try to do something more constructive with your time. Love the way you are sticking to those denial guns BTW. It's "denying denial" isn't it!
Originally posted by youwontfindme
reply to post by theovermensch
thats true. tell me, is there anything i can do to help the cause?
Originally posted by youwontfindme
reply to post by theovermensch
i dont think anarchy would be good at all, actually.