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Black Teen Spanked on Viral Video Found Dead

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posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 11:06 AM
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Black Teen Spanked on Viral Video Found Dead


www.blackamericaweb.com

A teenager who was a fleeting sensation on YouTube earlier this year after he was videotaped being spanked by his uncle for boasting about gang ties on his Facebook page was found shot to death last week, just steps away from his Terrytown neighborhood home.

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posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 11:06 AM
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You probably will remember the original video from above, as it went viral. I thought I read about it first on ATS, but the search is failing me to find the thread. If anyone can link to that thread, please do.

More from the story:


"She said she called him back inside a few minutes later to find out what was going on, and he told her he was just talking and went back outside. A few minutes later, her daughter received a text message saying that Taylor had been shot, and then another saying he was dead," the newspaper reported.

"Ward said she rushed from the house, driving around the neighborhood looking for her son, but didn't find him until she was coming back to her apartment complex. That's when she saw his body on the cold sidewalk, clad in the red sweatshirt she'd noticed when he left the house.


It's really tough to say whether this was caused by the added attention this kid was getting or the loss of street cred. or whether it was simply from the actions the uncle was speaking out against.

Another bit from the story:


"I am not surprised to hear that this young man's life has ended violently. When I saw the video, I kept thinking that by beating this youth, the uncle was setting him up for some kind of tragedy, either prison or an early grave," said Stacey Patton, who in April launched the web site SparetheKids.com to offer black parents alternatives to corporal punishment and the tools to help foster the healthy development of children.


Who's to blame?



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posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 11:12 AM
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Originally posted by freakjive

Who's to blame?



how bout the person that shot him?



posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 11:12 AM
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RIP to the sent, I hope it wasnt related to the gang violence. I cannot wait til lthe gangsters/urban dictator of Earth see their MIRRORS IN THEIR FACES. Will the gangster represent in the mirror or begin to FEAR what has been observing since day 1.



posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 11:13 AM
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How are they gonna blame this on his uncle? That boy was pretending to be a gangbanger then walks out in red and gets shot, doesnt take a rocket scientist to say why he got shot......This has nothin to do with his uncle



posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 11:14 AM
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Originally posted by Stryc9nine

Originally posted by freakjive

Who's to blame?



how bout the person that shot him?


yep, pretty much the only person to blame, i dont see how they are related



in 2005 some dad spanked a kid, then in 2011 he was in a car crash????????/// who is to blame for this madness??


god?



posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 11:16 AM
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That's the first time I've seen the video, Too bad the kid got shot, World needs more people like the uncle that aren't afraid to try and beat some sense into a kid without worrying about being called a child abuser.



posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 11:18 AM
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I really feel for the family in this situation especially the uncle who Should Not be blamed. Extreme approach to getting his point across? Maybe, but this is the very reason why. I am sure he is asking himself why he didn't do more.

All the way around this is just so sad...



posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 11:18 AM
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He has only himself to blame, you choose who you associate with, and if your parents try stopping you but despite the whipping you disobey and continue to associate yourself with bad elements it is your own fault.



posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 11:19 AM
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Everyone is to blame. Everyone from the Rappers, Media, and Hollywood glorifying the gangsta image, to the parents for letting the kid fall victim to it, to the uncle for not recognizing the danger of making that video public, to the kid himself for getting into the lifestyle, and of course to the cowards that think a "drive-by" shooting makes them tough.

Make those guys stick around and watch someone bleed, and watch their mama cry, and watch the lights go out in their eyes, and see if they are still so tough.

The whole society is to blame. Parenting is harder than it has ever been, and it is even harder when you have to work 2 jobs and can't be home.

I can't imagine the horror of getting a text message that your son is dead, no police, no ambulance, and then you have to go drive around and find his lifeless body on a sidewalk. That is beyond inhumane, and if it ever happened to me, I'd probably snap and burn down the whole city.

R.I.P. and prayers for his momma.



posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 11:19 AM
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Look, please don't shoot the messenger. I just brought the news and posed a question.

I personally do not hold the uncle responsible. I thought he was doing the right thing when I saw the original source video.



posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 11:22 AM
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Im talkin about the so called "specialists", The specialists that lose more than they help



posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 11:22 AM
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I guess they really do come from that stuff.
The uncle was just doing what the dad should have been doing. I got my ass kicked by my father, I was no where near the gang stuff but disciplining does help when it's not taken too far. A spanking on the butt is needed sometimes, hitting a child above the waist isn't ok, that's just abuse.



posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 11:27 AM
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Thanks a lot, G-R-A for the well thought out reply. I agree that there are many issues to address here and maybe through awareness we can improve.




posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 11:38 AM
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dont blame the uncle there are plenty of us old school guys who would do that same thing. it was said above that the father should have been the one doing this. i agree. where was dad? in prison or dead? both are likely. i applaud the uncle but i wish he had started on the kid sooner.



posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 11:38 AM
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Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by freakjive
 


Everyone is to blame. Everyone from the Rappers, Media, and Hollywood glorifying the gangsta image, to the parents for letting the kid fall victim to it, to the uncle for not recognizing the danger of making that video public, to the kid himself for getting into the lifestyle, and of course to the cowards that think a "drive-by" shooting makes them tough.


That doesn't make any sense.

So we need to charge everyone with murder? Why would we punish everyone for the actions of one person?
I say the shooter is to blame, and that individual should be charged with the crime.

With the logic that everyone is to blame, no wonder we have such an oppressive government. Everyone gets punished for the crimes of the few. My life is full of restrictions, regulations, and rules that govern my life and behavior because one guy ruined it for everyone else by being an idiot.

I am tired of being punished for other people's mistakes. How about we start blaming the individuals who commit these crimes and let the rest of the world live in peace without facing punishment for something they didn't do?



posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 11:45 AM
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Sure, the shooter committed an horrific crime. Lets put him in jail. Lets put him to sleep. But, will that make the neighborhood any safer, or will it save the next kid? Some other punk will eagerly step up to fulfil the role left behind. It is glamourous. There are girls, cars, money, and fame to be had if you just get enough street cred.

Hell, I love Dr. Dre and Snoop and Eminem. I loved Pac too! But for every Ice Cube and Dr. Dre that go from gangstas to executives, there are hundreds of crying mamas like this woman.

For every decent father that tries to openly communicate and set a good role model example, and doles out discipline and punishment fairly and necessarily even when he doesn't want to (it really does hurt me more than it hurts them), there are dozens of deadbeat fathers and overzealous uncles that are either out of the picture or only in the picture long enough to make things worse.

Do you really think spanking a grown kid and making it public is the best thing for that kid? I think attending a couple of funerals, or spending a night volunteering in the ER might have sunken in a little better without endangering his life.

This isn't an isolated incident, it is an endemic societal problem. It is a culture. It is a symptom of the larger busted economy and erosion of the family unit. Arresting the shooter is like dobbing raindrops off the windshield with a Q-tip. It's worthless.



posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 11:46 AM
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www.worldstarhiphop.com...

Real Life Scared Straight From Home: Watch How This Father Disciplines His Son For Acting Up In School! (Is This Type Of Punishment Over The Top Or Not?)

seems to be common...but the guy from OPs vid is nothing compared to this small guy...mad world...and now we see the outcome




A spanking on the butt is needed sometimes, hitting a child above the waist isn't ok, that's just abuse.
violence against kids is the worst form of teaching you can do and every form is abuse...rolemodels like parents shouldnt do that in any way...basic psychology

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posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 11:52 AM
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Blaming it on gang-culture or on family upbringing is also not rational sorry.

There are many people who were brought up in great families, had tons of money, and had no connection to gangs at all. And they still committed murder or were murdered by someone.

There are hundreds of nations globally where murder is a major problem, and so you cannot just single out one or two particular causes. There are a myriad of causes behind such acts, and it is not preventable. You can lower the odds of something like that happening by taking precautions, but there is no fool-proof method.

We don't even know who killed him either. It could have been his ex-girlfriend and he cheated on her and she wanted revenge. It could have been a random mugging. It could have been a case of mistaken identity. He could have gotten in an argument over something really stupid and it was a heat of the moment event. There is no way to tell without evidence to support any particular hypothesis.

Can you prove this had anything to do with gangs? Anything to do with the youtube video? I highly doubt it.
It sure as hell wasn't my fault, and I seriously doubt that it was "societies" fault since society is just an abstract ideal and not an actual entity. It was clearly an individual's fault entirely.

You are making too many assumptions and you will not be able to cash all of those checks, I assure you.



posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 12:04 PM
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Are you in that community or that culture? I didn't say it was "your" fault, unless you produce rap videos or live in the inner city somewhere and have some illegitimate kids running around unparented. If you take it personally, then there could be a reason for that, but I never indicated it was you personally.

There is a huge, huge, huge difference between domestic violence, serial killers, white collar crimes, and what we are seeing with this kid. Entirely different causes, entirely different mentalities, entirely different things to deal with.

Most suburban murders are solved. They are usually a loved one or an acquaintance. Serial killers have mental illness.

Drive-bys in the ghetto are rarely solved, rarely given much attention, and they vastly outnumber the other types of murders. It is a lifestyle. A friend of mine is 30 years old, lives here in Florida, works a good job, sends money home to put his sister into college, and she was shot last summer just standing on a street-corner. She lived, luckily. The police didn't do anything about it. A few days later a message comes through the grapevine that it had been "taken care of." And there was another dead kid in some other neighborhood. It is just part of the daily struggle in poor areas, urban areas, drug-infested areas, etc.

And although one could easily think I'm talking about a "black" problem. It is just as bad in my home area with all white, rural folks and the effects of meth. Idiot crimes, kids abandoned, neglected, hungry, hopeless. People shot or blown up. People in jail. It is horrible.

You are being extremely short-sighted. #1. They won't solve this crime, they won't arrest anybody. #2. Even if they did, what difference would it make? Would anyone in that neighborhood feel any safer after the arrest?




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