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Topic started on 14-12-2011 @ 10:01 AM by indigothefish
i think this has been posted in mention on ATS a couple times but not presented yet as a debate of it's own..

So the movie
starship troopers (1997)



first thing i would mention is there is clearly a scene of the world trade center ( in the movie is two random buildings from the fictional city geneva ) caught on fire after being hit by the planes ( in the movie the buildings are hit by bug plasma ) ( 44secs into video posted ) ( 1min 05 secs in )

the enemies in the movie are giant bugs basically, however; throughout the movie they are refered to as 'arachnids'. arachnids, iraq. ( 3min 15secs into video )

in the movie after the bug attacks it shows some good examples of conditioning a whole response for something like an attack that in the real world would translate to a terrorist attack. ( 2mins 29secs into video )

i haven't found a video clip of this scene yet, but also in the movie a leader of some sort, who is white skinned, resigns or ends his term but he is replaced by a female who is dark skinned. possibly a condition for being ready to elect an african american president.

also throughout the movie are various references to the societies structure which is under rigorous control of it's 'citezens' and kind of orwellian.

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reply posted on 14-12-2011 @ 10:12 AM by morder1
reply to post by Hessdalen



No, the 9/11 footage is NOT in the movie, the OP even mentioned it...

The 9/11 footage was edited in to show how similar the conditioning and reactions were from the movie, and 9/11 events... by beating the war drums


reply posted on 14-12-2011 @ 10:13 AM by Hessdalen
reply to post by morder1


too late for me to realize it ~.~ next time i use brain.exe before posting^^


reply posted on 14-12-2011 @ 10:13 AM by indigothefish
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wait are you saying that's not the original movie scene?


reply posted on 14-12-2011 @ 10:16 AM by morder1
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Everything but the burning twin towers is from the movie...


reply posted on 14-12-2011 @ 10:20 AM by indigothefish
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you know i was thinking " wow that is incredibly similiar to the actual tower footage '
hahaha

my bad, i actually didn't know that, definitely don't want to claim it is actual movie footage then but that point in the theory could still work and means the same thing, as well as all my other points about the movie - at least i'm still interested in them, for me it's possible


reply posted on 14-12-2011 @ 10:25 AM by FurvusRexCaeli
reply to post by indigothefish


So Robert A. Heinlein and Paul Verhoeven conspired, decades apart, to write a novel and film a take-off of the novel that would condition people to accept going to war over a terrorist attack that happened years after the film...

Why?

It wasn't enough that three thousand people died, we needed the added oomph of remembering a few scenes from Starship Troopers to push us over the edge?


reply posted on 14-12-2011 @ 10:28 AM by indigothefish
Originally posted by FurvusRexCaeli
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It wasn't enough that three thousand people died, we needed the added oomph of remembering a few scenes from Starship Troopers to push us over the edge?


aw man, i don't mean to poke at people personal experiences..
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reply posted on 14-12-2011 @ 10:29 AM by Xcalibur254
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I think Cracked had it right. Verhoeven traveled to the future, then returned to the past to direct a satire of a future war, making it a horrible waste of time travel.

6 Mind Blowing Way Starship Troopers Predicted the Future


reply posted on 14-12-2011 @ 10:30 AM by SmokeyDawn
Originally posted by Hessdalen
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post by morder1


too late for me to realize it ~.~ next time i use brain.exe before posting^^


Brain.exe is still buggy....find BetterBrain.exe online free instead!



reply posted on 14-12-2011 @ 11:37 AM by magicrat
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That did actually blow my mind a little bit. I love the writers at Cracked...


reply posted on 16-12-2011 @ 07:06 PM by Cassius666
Originally posted by morder1
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post by Hessdalen



No, the 9/11 footage is NOT in the movie, the OP even mentioned it...

The 9/11 footage was edited in to show how similar the conditioning and reactions were from the movie, and 9/11 events... by beating the war drums



Well nothing from Starship Troopers or 911 is new from a psychological point of view.
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