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posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 11:49 AM



edit on 14-12-2011 by wigit because: (no reason given)

posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 11:51 AM
Sure,this explains these but there are still plenty of photos and film that you cannot so easily explain away.

posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 11:52 AM
reply to post by elevenaugust

nice thread and thanks for your hard work....not sure about the dog photo that one has always intregued me
edit on 14-12-2011 by dashdespatch because: typo

posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 12:21 PM
wow ... this is one of the best post's ever...
thank's for all your work


posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 12:37 PM
dont mean to be picky but if its flying and you dont know what it is then its a UFO.... Unidentified Flying Object.... might be a plane but if you dont know that then to u it is a ufo.

posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 12:39 PM

Originally posted by m83x1
sorry but i couldn't resist

otherwise well explained S&F


You cannot imagine how many times the moon was/is involve(d) in 'UFOs' sightings!

For example, this....... the moon!

posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 12:46 PM

No, lamps reflection on a window, taken from:



No, mikrocopter/quadrocopter!!



U.F.O Bizarre clouds filmed over Moscow. October 2009

No, very uncommon cloud formation called "hole-punch clouds".
They are usually caused when an aircraft intersects altocumulus or cirrocumulus clouds.

Altocumulus are high-altitude clouds, usually white or gray in color, that occur in sheets or patches. Cirrocumulus also are high-altitude clouds made up of supercooled liquid water droplets and ice crystals.

An airplane passing through a mixed cloud layer while ascending or descending could disrupt the delicate coexistence between the ice crystals and the supercooled liquid water droplets, causing a hole to be punched in the sky.

Small-scale atmospheric movements, both up and down, caused by the jet stream, could cause a similar phenomenon.




In the original video , the sky brightness behind the darkest clouds create this striking contrast.



No, Spikey hot air balloon!


To be continued......

posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 12:51 PM
every photo and video of a UFO goes to experts who emamine them, and yes most can be explained as man made or natural things but even the experts admit that there is about 5% that they dont know what it is...

posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 12:59 PM
Very nice thread.

My favorite part is the Alien Adherists saying things like..


.. when the OP is not trying to explain all of them.

It goes a long way to illustrating the mindset of the Adherists.

posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 03:55 PM
S+F! I do believe in UFOs, I just think that they can be faked just a bit . . . TOO easily. This is an epic explanation of how simple objects and applications can be used to dupe others into thinking that they have caught real UFOs.

Good job!

posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 04:10 PM
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I second that opinion!

Having seen many a hoax in my day, and with my own two eyes- real UFO's (objects of unknown/not man made origin at different altitudes) I still don't feel like my experiences are questioned by the OP's very thorough and solid work.
We really need to weed out the distortion when it comes to sightings. The interned may be many good things, but the hoaxes and frauds are rampant since its introduction to mankind... As if it wasn't catastrophic even before it came to be.

Love to see more of this!

How does he do it?

posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 05:02 PM
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thank you for your post identifying some previously unidentified flying objects..

i can sense your frustration having not witnessed one yourself..

maybe you should try camping out.. as in.. outside..

posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 05:13 PM
reply to post by elevenaugust

Whilst on holiday in Eastern Europe i saw a UFO with my wife and i have no doubt in my mind it was technology far beyond human capability. I have no pictures or videos and have never discussed what i saw, but i know it was real. When i see threads like this suggesting otherwise i always wonder whether you are just trying to convince yourself?

posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 06:26 PM
reply to post by elevenaugust

Cool thread dude.

... Yep.

Sometimes Unidentified Flying Objects are not E.T

... Check.

posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 06:28 PM
This is something I have been advocating for some time now. In my opinion, there are just too many objects and phenomena that fly or occur in the sky for your average "witness" to know about, therefore what is a UFO to them, will be an IFO to someone else.

I have mentioned before that the ONLY way to say that something is truly a UFO is to compare the time and location of the sighting with every single flightplan, military and civilian, as well as missile launch, rocket launches, military, civilian, and government, as well as all chinese lantern launches, balloon launches, et cetera.

It just cannot be done. Especially considering any classified aircraft or "in the sky" phenomena that may be taking place. This isn't even considering the number of atmospheric conditions that can cause visuals that will trick just about anyone who isn't well-versed in the particular happening.

Because this is will always be the case, the ONLY way UFO's can be proven to be alien in origin, is to have one either land and announce their existence, or crash in a densely populated area with hundreds of eyewitnesses, who just happen to take video and stills of the occurrence.

That is the truth the way I see it. If you say that I am wrong, and that one doesn't need to eliminate all of these other phenomena first, then you aren't doing your investigations correctly. Just because it doesn't look like a weather balloon or aircraft from the ground, doesn't mean that it is not a balloon or aircraft. There are so many factors that can alter your perception of what is in the sky, such as speed, altitude, cloud-cover, et cetera.

All I am saying is that one should never be so quick to discount all natural phenomena and claim "aliens."

posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 06:47 PM
Excellent work. Always interesting seeing things pointed out like that.

Not trying to challenge you or anything, but this is IMHO the best ufo picture I've ever seen and would like your opinion/view on it.

and here's another one of it, whatever it is.

posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 07:11 PM
reply to post by elevenaugust

I am late to reply....but dude....please! your expanations are no better than the first ones. Are you for real???????

posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 07:14 PM

Originally posted by elevenaugust

Originally posted by munkey66
I was 13 when I witnessed my first UFO's
I am now 45

Walking home from football training with a few freinds we stopped dead in our tracks and watched 5 UFO's staying next to each other on an almost cross formation.
No idea how big they where or how far they where as it was at night.
At a very poor estimate I would say they where a few miles away and probably each was double the size of a jumbo jet
they moved as 1 to the right and then to the left, they moved right and then left again and then went straight up at a tremendous speed.
It lasted around 30 seconds
30 minutes later there where aircraft combing the sky in the area of the sighting.

No street lights blocking our view, no windows, no reflections.
Using your debunking skills can you please explain to me what it was that I saw.


I'm not here to debunk anything, only trying to explain how our senses can be confused by common things.
In the past, I've met people like you you have seen extraordinary things that really cannot be explained, so I fully understand that what you've seen cannot be explained in any way too.

There are too many fakes and misinterpretation that hide the real interesting cases, like yours.

TO...8/11....I like the presentation you have put together here as it shows how easily people are to jump to a conclusion that every weird looking object in the an Alien Craft. They are UFO's.....until debunked. This.....almost mass delution of seeing E.T. craft or hand in everything.....and that we are but pawns of those who are in the disturbing and I think symtomatic of a greater psycological issues.

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posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 09:29 PM
Maybe you can explain 99% of them, but that 1% that's left is what's always going to keep me interested..... When I hear stories from former NASA astronauts and employees discussing UFO's it really makes you wonder... Because if those eye witnesses arent credible, than who is?

posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 09:44 PM
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Explain the Ufo's in this video if you can?

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