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Originally posted by ManFromEurope
Some days ago there was a documentary about 9/11 here in the German TV on N24.
They let "experts" do some debunking of (in my opinion) very serious questions like "other steel towers burned for days without breaking down, why not the towers?" - the answer to this was NOT "these towers were hit by planes therefore weakened" but "steel gets weaker in those temperatures", without explaining why other burning skyscrapers didn't crash.
The whole show was like this - they raised a critical question and let some guys answer them usually in a way which showed that those experts thought that the questioneer was a crazy man even thinking about this. "Those people should stop worrying about these physically obviously possible incidents!"
Were did Flight 93 go? Yepp, straight in squashy moorlands, directly above some collapsed mines. Thats why there was no large hole or huge masses of debris or wingparts or whatever. They are soooooo deep in the mud right now!
I stopped looking after about 15 minutes of this, it was so absolutely biased I couldn't endure more of it..!
Originally posted by Wizayne
Originally posted by vipertech0596
reply to post by Wizayne
The shafts were unsealed by the large airplanes crashing into them. And each tower had at least one shaft that ran the entire building.
Wow, sounds like a SOLID defense.
2nd line. solid.
Originally posted by Godhood
pair this with the missing gold,
Originally posted by Alfie1
reply to post by dannotz
The only person I am aware of to claim an explosion prior to plane impact was William Rodriguez. He has little credibility because of the way his story has developed over time. He was working in the basement and his account from the time refers to a rumble , nothing about an explosion below. As pointed out in this item, what would have been the point of an explosion below the basement when the collapse obviously originated from the impact point :-
To be more specific, if Americans can grasp the proven fact that a small rogue group within the government can defy every rule and every principle then then can understand how and why 9/11 happened and how it was covered up.
"This report contends that not only were the buildings targets, but that specific offices within each building were the designated targets. These offices unknowingly held information which if exposed, subsequently would expose a national security secret of unimaginable magnitude. Protecting that secret was the motivation for the September 11th attacks. This report is about that national security secret: its origins and impact. The intent of the report is to provide a context for understanding the events of September 11th rather than to define exactly what happened that day. Initially, it is difficult to see a pattern to the destruction of September 11th other than the total destruction of the World Trade Center, a segment of the Pentagon, four commercial aircraft and the loss of 2,993 lives. However, if the perceived objective of the attack is re-defined from its commonly suggested ‘symbolic’ designation as either ‘a terrorist attack’ or a ‘new Pearl Harbor,’ and one begins by looking at it as purely a crime with specific objectives (as opposed to a political action), there is a compelling logic to the pattern of destruction. This article provides research into the early claims by Dick Eastman, Tom Flocco, V.K. Durham and Karl Schwarz that the September 11th attacks were meant as a cover-up for financial crimes being investigated by the Office of Naval Intelligence(ONI), whose offices in the Pentagon were destroyed on September 11th."
Due to the nature of the story, and the accompanying secrecy, details and “mainstream” source material are understandably hard to find, giving mainstream media reason to discount the story. None the less, the revelations produced by Heidner expose a motive that makes much more sense than the B-movie script version we are all familiar with. When 911 is investigated as a crime, and not an act of terrorism, what can we surmise by examining what was accomplished? The main goals appear to have been intended to at least:
1. Destroy evidence of institutional lawlessness in government, finance, military and business.
2. Silence investigations into the above.
3. Demolish the white elephants known as the Twin Towers.
4. Provide pretext for world war and hegemony in the guise of the Global War on Terrorism.
5. Allow the continuation of a culture of plunder and corruption
Originally posted by BRAVO949
At this point, why a person defends the official story and refuses to consider the truth staring them straight in the face is more a matter of psychology than interpretation of facts.
The discussions here on ATS are a very good example the point I am making above.
There are a number of individuals who argue for the official story and if you read one or two of their comments they seem to make sense of at the least what they write is not totally unreasonable.
However, if you read a dozen or more of their comments you see a pattern espeically when you read the comments they make about subjects other than 9/11.
Many of the 9/11 official story supporters support all official stories on every subject.
You could say they swallow all government propaganda and the mainstream media fairy tale in one gulp.
Now, we should be able to read a single comment and judge it on its validity and not judge the writer first and the disregard the comment based on the fact that we do not like the person's general orientation. You will notice however that some members on this site just disrupt all serious conversations with discrediting comments so maybe it is fair to discount what they say.
Obviously, at the highest levels the Bush Administration tried everything in their power to block an honest investigation of the crime of 9/11 and as you said "experts" seem to want to block any and all unofficial investigations by claiming anyone who even asks a question about 9/11 is crazy.