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Originally posted by Essan
Originally posted by metaldemon2000
Its funny you say that because pockets of air in glacial ice formed during the last ice age reveal co2 levels of over 500 ppm. Basically emissions were higher in those days. Something to think about.
Care to show us that data? I know a few glaciaologists and atmospheric scientists who'd be interested too.
Ice Core data shows COs levels not to have exceeded ~300ppm for the past 750,000 years.
Fossil leaves concur (based on stomata).
Originally posted by jude11
Somehow I think we're going to still be paying a carbon tax...and it's not even our fault!
Corporations destroy the Earth, Earth fights back...and I have to pay.
Originally posted by MainLineThis
The planet lives and breaths on a scale the average idiot can't begin to comprehend. I could go to any moment in human history and make weather/climate change arguments and have legions of useful idiots follow my religion, Think about that.
Originally posted by Bearack
Originally posted by Observor
At this point of time debating whether the globe is warming or not and if it is, whether the primary contributor is human lifestyle or not is completely meaningless. Even if we did have some control at some point of time in the past, we are past that as evidenced by the methane emissions. The best that scientists can do now is to develop models to predict climate change, so that we can prepare for it in the best way we can, rather than attempt to stop the change.
That's what I never could understand. The continued debate rather than the development of safe guards, I.E. climate proof food development. Coastal relocation plans or structure developments to limit life loss if the water rises.
I don't think science can disprove that this earth has changed a million times of it's life that had absolutely nothing to do with humans, so why should we not adapt to the change versus trying to change it itself?
Originally posted by andy06shake
reply to post by blackcube
I wonder which species will be next to replace us, the bee's, the rats or the Cockroaches? Probobly not the Bee's to be fair.
Originally posted by Vitchilo
Very very good find.
This show that us humans are puny and earth will do whatever she has to do.
I'm sure those vents are producing in a week way way way more greenhouse gases than all of humanity has produced in the last thousand years.
Now I'll just print this and show this to the still brainwashed ``we must cut our CO2 and pay carbon taxes`` eco-nazis in my family... maybe that'll wake them up.edit on 13-12-2011 by Vitchilo because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Lykantroph11
Okay so I don't know much since I've got little time to do proper research SO PARDON my possible stupidities but.........:
My frist thought about reading the entire thread is that if the methane will heaten up the air this could cause the ice to melt-> melted ice a.ka cold water speeds up the melting process of the ice -> all the cold water could flow into the sea...... Could the cold water affect the oceanic currents ( change of temperature of the ocean ) and so affect the temperature to drop drastically on land? ?????( colder seawater, colder air blowing in? )