Originally posted by ProudBird
reply to post by NoHierarchy
Or maybe.....just a natural process of the Earth's long-term climate?
Ok, denier propaganda troll... here we go:
NO IT'S NOT. All science points to Anthropogenic factors contributing to the VAST MAJORITY of our current global warming. The only natural cycle
involved is the Milkanovitch Cycle, and that doesn't come ANYWHERE CLOSE to explaining our rapid rise in warming, concurrent with our rapid rise in
atmospheric CO2 concentrations (which are at historical levels).
Yeah, some might be due to human activity, but there is a great deal of science that shows the effects of Global Climate variations, long
before Humans were a dominant technological species.
MOST of global warming is due to human activity (and subsequent feedbacks we've triggered). The ENTIRE POINT of our current global warming is that
it's anthropogenically induced. Yes... in the past, climate variation was not due to human actions, but NOW IT IS. That's the whole point. Do you
have any idea of the MASSIVE SCALE of modern human populations, industrialization, resource consumption, and pollution?? If you did, it would be
impossible NOT to imagine that we could easily change the planet's atmosphere, ecosystems, and oceans... and... tragically, we're doing immense harm
to ALL THE ABOVE.
Don't get me wrong, I am ALL FOR investigation into Human activities and possible influences on our environment....gosh knows we are doing
that, and HAVE done that, in "spades".
Just think about it ("climate alteration") in terms of spans of years that exceed the normal lifespans of people.
We must NOT "over-react" just yet. Much still to be learned....and as I've mentioned elsewhere.....it is usually a centuries-long process
Yes, we are destroying the planet and causing the planet's 6th Great Extinction Event.
And global warming is the perfect storm to tip our biosphere into irreversible collapse. THIS IS VERY SERIOUS, and there is NO GUARANTEE OF A HAPPY
ENDING (that sounded dirty... but the reality is far far dirtier).
IF ANYTHING, we are UNDER-reacting. Too concerned about short-term economic negotiations and petty international squabbles, tit-for-tats, and industry
propaganda/lobbying to ACTUALLY reduce consumption of fossil fuels and seek to reverse various pollutants and CO2-induced global warming.
I have "faith" in only one thing.....technology, and Human inventiveness to achieve, through technology, its goals.
You know what they say about blind faith, right?? WHAT has gotten us into our mess?? OUR TECHNOLOGIES. Yes, many beautiful, wonderful, and intensely
fascinating things have been accomplished by humans (and our technologies)... but AT WHAT COST? Keep in mind... our technology, more then ever, is a
double-edged sword. With every problem it solves, it tends to create 5 more. We ALREADY HAVE a massive stack of problems caused by our lifestyle (and
the technologies/resources it requires) that we still haven't figured out how to manage properly/intelligently... what makes you think that heaping
MORE crap onto the pile is gonna magically work? Doing the same thing over and over expecting different results is called insanity/idiocy. It's time
to live differently, it's time to subtract if we must.