Obama "Justifies"( FEMA??) imprisonment of civilians !!!

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posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 07:53 PM
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Outstanding post!

I have just been waiting for this sort of talk... I actually wrote THIS Thread in relation to this "prolonged detention" act on the horizon.

In it, I describe my feelings that the Occupy protestors are actually being set up as "enemy combatants." Please read and share your thoughts.

Again, thank you for posting... S&F of course, and keep up the good work.




posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 07:55 PM
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posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 08:02 PM
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Hey (WhoDat...) thank you! I appreciate you taking the time. Like I mentioned in another one of my posts...isn't it interesting that the troops are coming home now...think about it! I'm just saying.



posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 08:03 PM
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Am I seeing this right ?

If this was his words in 2009, that means this current bill was pre-planned !!!!


from the youtube link:

Uploaded by keithmsnbcer on May 21, 2009

Part 1 of 2: On The Rachel Maddow Show, Rachel discusses Obama's speech today with Vincent Warren with the Center for Constitutional Rights, who met with Obama at the White House yesterday with other human rights activists and civil libertarians about the concerns with Obama's embrace of Bush and Cheney policies. 'Preventive detention' at the top of the list. 5/21/09

See Part 2 at:
Part 2


Part 1






Uploaded by keithmsnbcer on May 21, 2009

Part 2 of 2: On The Rachel Maddow Show, Rachel discusses Obama's speech today with Vincent Warren with the Center for Constitutional Rights, who met with Obama at the White House yesterday with other human rights activists and civil libertarians about the concerns with Obama's embrace of Bush and Cheney policies. 'Preventive detention' at the top of the list. 5/21/09


Part 2



posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 08:24 PM
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Originally posted by Indenu
I really see nothing special here.

Just because you dont agree with something your government does, Doesn't mean you need to throw a riot at them. Move to another country or take it up with your local federal representative, it's all you can do.


by the way, I agree with Obama. Arresting someone in the present is a great way to stop crime in the future.

( Smart people have to stop dumb people from doing what they think is right. )
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Or smart people have to do what's right to stop stupid, self-serving, traitorous and ignorant politicians and their international banking handlers from creating a fully totalitarian and fascist state. It could go that way too.

Cheers - Dave



posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 08:38 PM
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Dougle Double
Speak Speak



posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 08:45 PM
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That did not just happen. Please tell me that did not just happen?!


.......And to think, I stopped drinking today because I convinced myself I was over reacting. Damn I threw away some good vodka. Time to go get it out of the trash..... and maybe go buy some more. Im not sure I can deal with this with just two bottles of Smirnoff



posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 09:14 PM
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Yes, it is interesting that the troops are coming home now. I don't know what's going on in this world we live in but it's kinda scarey!

Everyday we hear threats of the apocalypse, everyday we hear threats of WWIII, everyday it just seems to get worse and worse. The economy sucks........ I wonder what 2012 will bring us ......



posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 09:19 PM
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Originally posted by Azekual
That did not just happen. Please tell me that did not just happen?!


.......And to think, I stopped drinking today because I convinced myself I was over reacting. Damn I threw away some good vodka. Time to go get it out of the trash..... and maybe go buy some more. Im not sure I can deal with this with just two bottles of Smirnoff


NOOOOOO! Wasted booze is a sin, and I'm not even religious.



posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 09:20 PM
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by the way, I agree with Obama. Arresting someone in the present is a great way to stop crime in the future.


Ok, so if you were accused of something you had no intentions of doing and were arrested for it that would be alright? So if they took a shot in the dark, and assumed you were planning on doing something and were detained for it that would be alright? Since when does words speak louder then actions? If you ask me they will continue to assume, and incarcerate the innocent.



posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 09:21 PM
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The world is becoming an interesting and terrifying place. Who knows what will come, though? MAybe enough people (including many of our troops) will awaken as a result.
By the way, I noticed your username: GEAUX SAINTS!!!



posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 09:31 PM
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Originally posted by pierregustavetoutant

Originally posted by Azekual
That did not just happen. Please tell me that did not just happen?!


.......And to think, I stopped drinking today because I convinced myself I was over reacting. Damn I threw away some good vodka. Time to go get it out of the trash..... and maybe go buy some more. Im not sure I can deal with this with just two bottles of Smirnoff


NOOOOOO! Wasted booze is a sin, and I'm not even religious.

thats why i gor ir back our



posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 10:33 PM
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The world is becoming an interesting and terrifying place. Who knows what will come, though? MAybe enough people (including many of our troops) will awaken as a result.
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yea.. after seeing this video...

I am hoping the same thing..



posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 10:45 PM
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Obama and the rest are trying to sell this as being for our own "good."But it's good to see that they are not fooling anyone even Rachelle Madow.I was surprised she even spoke out against this! Never thought she would come out so strongly against this.



posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 11:16 PM
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Originally posted by baddmove
Wow.. just WoW!!

watch this video ATS..

I am speechless.

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Did he just say all that....really?
:puz

A legal regime to make indefinite detention legal??
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if somebody is held for 5 years and then gets let out and then commits that crime he was already punished for does he get put back in jail??



posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 12:38 AM
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If anyone skipped over that Naomi Wolf lecture, it's worth the 50 minutes to listen to. Bookmark it for later, put it on when you're doing bills or facebook or porn. Whatever. Great perspective on the steps leading to a fascist state and where on that road the US lies.



posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 12:51 AM
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The troop withdrawls from Iraq were negociated some years back.

The "coincidence" is that new conflicts are starting now.

U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement


The U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement (official name: "Agreement Between the United States of America and the Republic of Iraq On the Withdrawal of United States Forces from Iraq and the Organization of Their Activities during Their Temporary Presence in Iraq") is a status of forces agreement (SOFA) between Iraq and the United States. It establishes that U.S. combat forces will withdraw from Iraqi cities by June 30, 2009, and all U.S. forces will be completely out of Iraq by December 31, 2011, subject to possible further negotiations which could delay withdrawal and a referendum scheduled for mid-2009 in Iraq which may require U.S. forces to completely leave by the middle of 2010. ....

... Ratification by Iraqi Parliament

On November 27, 2008, the Iraqi Parliament ratified a Status of Forces Agreement with the United States, establishing that U.S. combat forces will withdraw from Iraqi cities by June 30, 2009, and all U.S. forces will be completely out of Iraq by December 31, 2011, but allowing for further negotiation if the Iraqi Prime Minister believes Iraq is not stable enough. The pact requires criminal charges for holding prisoners over 24 hours, and requires a warrant for searches of homes and buildings that are not related to combat.[3] U.S. contractors will be subject to Iraqi criminal law. If U.S. forces commit still undecided "major premeditated felonies" while off-duty and off-base, they will be subject to the still undecided procedures laid out by a joint U.S.-Iraq committee if the U.S. certifies the forces were off-duty.[3][4][5][6] A referendum of Iraqis will be held in mid-2009 on the pact, which may require Coalition forces to leave by the middle of 2010.[1] Parliament also passed another U.S.-Iraqi bilateral pact called the Strategic Framework Agreement, aimed at ensuring minority Sunni interests and constitutional rights.[9]

In Iraq's Parliament, the pact was supported by 149 of 275 members (~54%) from SCIRI, Dawa, the two Kurdish parties and members of the Sunni-based Iraqi Accord Front.[35] The pact was opposed by 35 members, mostly from the Sadrist bloc.[36] 91 members did not vote, fearing for their future if they said yes, others fearing the same if they said no.[11]


Obama was taking "credit" for something that was agreed upon before he even became POTUS !!




posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 12:53 AM
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Originally posted by SunnyDee

Originally posted by 46ACE
seriously old news: Maddows' piece was first uploaded May21, 2009
Why the astonishment?
(Most of "you guys"here voted for him...)
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Sorry, but that's a really dumb comment. Did anyone vote in any president in the hopes that they go against our constitution? I doubt it.

Did anyone vote for GWB in the hopes that he'd take us to war and create the Patriot act? Doubt it.

It's very ignorant to condemn people for voting for Obama, just like it is for any of the Presidents we've voted in.

None of them have lived up to what we were sold in Campaign seasons.

Besides, it's all a game, so the Obama attacks or any other prez attacks are a waste of all out time. Think, us against the illuminati, and then you're on the right train.


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posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 01:00 AM
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I give Ms Maddow credit for her report on this.

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posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 01:49 AM
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Yeah America is pretty much dead.
The round ups are on their way.
I promise you the round ups are on their way.
They will most likely be given a name that is more palateable to the masses but rest assured that is precisely what they are.
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