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Originally posted by Afterthought
I understand how difficult it would be to believe how many years the plan has been such a lengthy concerted effort. Oh, and we can't forget Kissinger.
Originally posted by OrchusGhule
reply to post by the_denv
No harm done.
Living in the middle of nowhere seems rather nice right now, considering the developing situation. Fortunately, my "bug-out" house is in the middle of nowhere, and I've never been closer to retreating there.
Originally posted by LoneGunMan
This is why the Michigan Militia was formed back in the 70's because they knew this was coming. They never let themselves become brainwashed from the start.
This has been happening fro decades. It has taken them this long to boil our collective frog asses.
It seems to be working...
Originally posted by OrchusGhule
reply to post by LoneGunMan
It is working very well, in fact. Barely anyone not involved in sites such as this one have no idea about this bill. Asking around at work today, not a single person out of 30 had any idea what the NDAA even was. If that is a ratio representative of the general American population, we could be in serious trouble.edit on 14-12-2011 by OrchusGhule because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by LibertyCrazy
Kudos to Maddow. I've always considered her to be an intellectually dishonest liberal shill. But this is solid journalism and thoughtful commentary.
Unfortunately the left has been taken by this man. The "change they could believe in" is actually the change represented by Ron Paul. This President has never represented change or liberty. He's a central planner, and an oppressor of any divergent thought.
Originally posted by zeeon
Incase any of you don't already know - this is scary because of the context.
Look up the NDAA - which has already been passed by the Senate and is in conferee status with the House!!
This bill basically allows the Government and the President to imprison US Citizens without cause or charges or anything if they are "suspected" of terrorism (or supporting terrorism.)
This is scary stuff people!
Further more, Senator Levin and Senator McCain (Yep, thats right, John McCain) authored the bill. They came out a couple days ago and said that the OBAMA ADMINISTRATION FORCED THEM to change the bill to INCLUDE US Citizens!! The original bill, they say, was authored to exclude US Citizens, and the Obama administration made them change to include US Citizens!
We need to write our congressman, flood them and demand that this bill be changed before Obama signs this into LAW
Originally posted by UnlimitedSky
reply to post by baddmove
ATS requires some description of vids etc. I am another wannahave vids on this site. Surely the poster can take time to write down one to two sentences as quotes of what was said?
Long discussions on 'pics or it did not happen', well what about 'words or I cannot know'.