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The Ayn Rand Donahue interviews

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posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 05:42 PM
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I havent seen this on ATS and i wanted to share these videos with the community. For those of you that know Ayn Rand, no further explanation is necessary, but for those that don't, she was and her writings (The Fountainhead & Atlas Shrugged etc..) still are manifestos of free thought and objectivist thinking. For those Ron Paul fans among us (the majority I surmise..me too) you will fall in love with this woman and her philosophy.

Plus it's also fun to watch her completely obliterate those that try and call her bluff.
If you listen to her words and not just hear them I guarantee you will have a more awakened day.



ENJOY!






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posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 05:48 PM
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Flat out misinformation...

His name is Randall. Rand is short for Randall.

www.nytimes.com...

"As a teenager, he studied the Austrian economists that his father revered, as well as the iconic free-market novelist and philosopher, Ayn Rand (she was not the inspiration for Rand’s name, which is short for Randal; he was called Randy growing up)."




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posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 05:54 PM
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Corrected...flat out....thank you....

And straight from Rand's mouth...

But did you care to watch the videos or are you just driving by with your head out the window?


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posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 06:08 PM
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I'll check out the vids when I get off my phone. I have to say after seeing her one sided view on the middle east (also on Donahue). She never crossed me as this all knowing being.



posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 06:29 PM
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For all you always on the look out for the anti-Christ, here she is!


I've read those novels each more than once and they are so brilliant they boggle the mind. But as a personal philosophy to live by, .......... it's a shame.
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posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 06:47 PM
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It's a shame to do things because it makes you feel good, and to NOT do things because you dant want to?

Altruism is slavery. The shame is in denying it.



posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 06:50 PM
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Ayn Rand railed against leeches and government handouts...right up until the day she started using them herself and collected Social Security and Medicare. Then she tried to keep it a secret, because she knew what a hypocrite she was. Go Google it.



posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 07:21 PM
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Of course if its on Google it's fact.

No one is perfect, but does that invalidate everything she ever stood for?



posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 07:26 PM
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Did you know she liked unions and thought they were great.
But I guess the republicans don't want anyone to know that.



posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 07:26 PM
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Originally posted by Areyoupeopleinsane
Of course if its on Google it's fact.


Are you denying the veracity of the information?


Originally posted by Areyoupeopleinsane
No one is perfect, but does that invalidate everything she ever stood for?


No one is perfect? She insulted those who needed government assistance.

If you spend your whole life, and make your money off of, calling people on Social Security "leeches" and talking about how individuals need to stand on their own two feet, and accepting the consequences if you fail.....then at the end of your life, do something completely opposite of your entire philosophy and gladly accept that which you have disdained and mocked your whole life...

Knowing what happened to her in the end, isnt that the most important lesson her life left us, and not her selfish philosophy?



posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 07:27 PM
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Originally posted by Areyoupeopleinsane
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It's a shame to do things because it makes you feel good, and to NOT do things because you dant want to?


I don't recall saying that. We all do things at times to please ourselves as we should, but when one's primary motivations become only service to self, then our lives become unfulfilled and shallow, with little to show that substantiates our existence in a truly meaningful way.

ETA: OP, I've never seen this interview before, so thank you for posting it.
Although I disagree with Ms. Rand's philosophies on a very fundamental level, I enjoy her intelligence and personality.


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posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 07:45 PM
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I can't say I've ever read her books so I'm only going on what is in these interviews. I can see some of what she means in terms of being self-sacrificial and how that can be very damaging but I mean in the personal sense and not in the political sense, particularly as it pertains sometimes to women.

That being said, it seems to me her view of looking at the world would be a very sad and disturbing way to go through life. I am refering for instance to her comment that she doesn't look to the stars in wonder, she doesn't even look at the stars, nor does she want to. What she looks at in wonder are man-made sky-scrapers. She certainly seems to put the mind and the power of the mind and science on a pedestal, but how did the mind come to be, it is logical to conclude that a intelligent creative designer put all those hundreds of millions of neuro-transmitters together in such a fashion that it actually works. Humans didn't do that, but she would find that illogical.

She refers to the mentally deficient or 'retarded' as sub-human and values the 'gifted' over and above the 'ungifted'. I'm assuming she believes in eugenics. Funny that you have so many people with high IQ's and talented gifts yet they often can't see the forest for the trees. So called simple or ungifted people can have more wisdom in thier brains that the most highly educated.Eugenics is very dangerous territory indeed.

Did she approve the wiping out of indigenous cultures and the 'primitive jungle cultures' in order to make way for so-called civilization? If she did then she was a psychologically disturbed woman.

As far as her wanting small government, I suppose she approves of the elderly being thrown out into the streets as well as the disabled and poor people, and no medicare either of course. That is a cold and callous philosophy.
If she did collect social security herself and hide the fact then that really is the height of hypocrisy, though I wouldn't blame her for collecting it like many others to keep a roof over ones head. It has been earned hasn't it.

Her reasoning concerning belief in God is illogical. And scientists are basically studying that which has already been created or put into existence.

I actually felt rather sad for this woman.



posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 09:08 PM
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O K Thankyou O P for shareing thease videos......I dont like to speak ill of anyone let alone the dead whom are in no poition to defend themselfs .HOWEVER I M O ....I find many of this womans beleifs deeply offensive...To quote Batgirl.......
She refers to the mentally deficient or 'retarded' as sub-human and values the 'gifted' over and above the 'ungifted'. I'm assuming she believes in eugenics. Funny that you have so many people with high IQ's and talented gifts yet they often can't see the forest for the trees. So called simple or ungifted people can have more wisdom in thier brains that the most highly educated.Eugenics is very dangerous territory indeed.................................................................................................A truely enlightened civilisation must care for those less fortunate .Wether its due to mental deficancy economic hardships medical issues ect..None of us know what lies ahead for us or our loved ones.An its obtuse an shortsighted to the max to condem or demean anyone less fortunate than yourself.For we or people we care for may find ourselfs in those circumstances in the future.Civilised society should function on treating others as we would wish to be treated ourself..It is also a bit like a stew or thick broth soup an needs to be stirred up ocasionally or the scum has a tendancy to rise to the top.....M O O.



posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 09:24 PM
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I watched these interviews a while ago, my only complaint was in her support of israel, of course it's understandable since she is jewish and the israeli crimes were not so apparent back then. Other than that atlas shrugged is necessary reading for anyone who is opposed to statism and for free will.



posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 11:39 PM
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Altruism is slavery. The shame is in denying it.

That’s pretty disgusting. Creepy, I call it. I am very glad you are not part of my social circle.

Fortunately, you are dead wrong. Altruism is a basic instinct shared by many social animals. If it is slavery, the slave-driver is instinct itself; and in that case, love, desire, passion, ambition, aggression and every other instinctive drive are also forms of slavery.

A Buddhist might agree to that, but I do not think Ms. Rand would have.




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