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posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 10:49 PM
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Lack of knowledge to the outside world? Most have lack of knowledge about what is happening in their own neighborhood. Most go along to get along because they feel what they think doesn't matter anyway. As far as being invaded every kind of military from all parts of the world are stomping all over the US at any given minute and has been for many years. We haven't asked any of them to be here either. Take a look at WACO in case some have forgotten. Foreign troops not only were here they helped kill american people on american soil. The heart of the matter is that London is the Financial Control, Rome is the head of the Religious Control and DC is the head of the Military Control of the Globalists. When the people start placing the blame where it belongs instead of each other nothing will improve.




posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 10:51 PM
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Is it okay if we visit?
I promise not to say;
Shrimp on the barbi
Where is Crocodile Dundee
or
Fosters, it's Australian for beer.

Honest!




posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 11:28 PM
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Originally posted by redrose123
reply to post by steveknows
 


Lack of knowledge to the outside world? Most have lack of knowledge about what is happening in their own neighborhood. Most go along to get along because they feel what they think doesn't matter anyway. As far as being invaded every kind of military from all parts of the world are stomping all over the US at any given minute and has been for many years. We haven't asked any of them to be here either. Take a look at WACO in case some have forgotten. Foreign troops not only were here they helped kill american people on american soil. The heart of the matter is that London is the Financial Control, Rome is the head of the Religious Control and DC is the head of the Military Control of the Globalists. When the people start placing the blame where it belongs instead of each other nothing will improve.


Did you actually read my post? You do realise I was sticking up for the U.S over people blaming it for everything?
Or have I just mIsread your post? I don't know but I do know that WACO was a religious nutters thing and the FBI stuffed up its operation against it. I remember seeing it on the news all those years ago but I don't remember anything about foreign soldiers being involved. Is that what you're refering to? I don't know sorry but your post is a bit confusing.



posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 11:34 PM
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Good enough ,nations that have american military are essentially targetted by russian nuclear/biological weapons.

You made the decision to be america's slave,Gillard and the consequences will be for australian people to bear when ww3 starts.



posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 11:55 PM
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Originally posted by BladeGlint
I do not like threads like this, It is all about hate!.

I welcome our great friends America to Australia, they will help in our national security, help local economies and train our troops and bring very good tech for us to use and learn from.

I read many posts on ATS that are written buy ignorant tools who have no idea about what they write, all they do is spew hate and racism.. No wonder the world is at war.

If you haven’t realised I will tell you a little secret......Allies of Australia have troops here all the time for training and support, some have even had permanent bases here for a long time.

We are a fantastic place to visit and live. All the peoples of the world are welcome here and long as you leave your fears and hate behind and embrace the Aussie spirit that “everyone deserves a fair go” and “look after your mates”.
Why would those who have chosen to live in our great country deny anyone else the right to live in peace and a security in a place that has given them so much that they feel they can refuse others .

I would like to see America double its troop commitment to Northern Territory and bring all the hardware it can carry/fly in and build as much infrastructure it wants.

I’m sure we can put the base to good use when they decide it time to leave.


I'm not having a go at you here but you might want to research a bit before calling people ignorant tools.

You obviously don't know that the Australian defence force plays a big hand in training American defence force personnel. In fact alot of their fighter pilots are trained by our guys.

There are no foreign bases in Australia and never have been, Pine cap is a joint monitoring base manned by both Australians and American. The U.S has always used our bases as we have theirs.

Australia is one of the world leaders in Defence technology In fact one of the defence systems which is at the core of all this is called JORN

.The Jindalee Operational Radar Network (JORN) is an over-the-horizon radar network that can monitor air and sea movements across 37,000 km2. It has an official range of 3,000 km. It is used in the defence of Australia and can also monitor maritime operations, wave heights and wind directions. And it spotted the stealth fighter as soon as the fighter enterd its radar range for the first time during an exercise.

This whole thing is about the U.S and Australia combining their abilities and resources to creat an umberella in the region.


www.defence.gov.au...
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posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 01:23 AM
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Originally posted by steveknows

Originally posted by BladeGlint
I do not like threads like this, It is all about hate!.

I welcome our great friends America to Australia, they will help in our national security, help local economies and train our troops and bring very good tech for us to use and learn from.

I read many posts on ATS that are written buy ignorant tools who have no idea about what they write, all they do is spew hate and racism.. No wonder the world is at war.

If you haven’t realised I will tell you a little secret......Allies of Australia have troops here all the time for training and support, some have even had permanent bases here for a long time.

We are a fantastic place to visit and live. All the peoples of the world are welcome here and long as you leave your fears and hate behind and embrace the Aussie spirit that “everyone deserves a fair go” and “look after your mates”.
Why would those who have chosen to live in our great country deny anyone else the right to live in peace and a security in a place that has given them so much that they feel they can refuse others .

I would like to see America double its troop commitment to Northern Territory and bring all the hardware it can carry/fly in and build as much infrastructure it wants.

I’m sure we can put the base to good use when they decide it time to leave.


I'm not having a go at you here but you might want to research a bit before calling people ignorant tools.

You obviously don't know that the Australian defence force plays a big hand in training American defence force personnel. In fact alot of their fighter pilots are trained by our guys.

There are no foreign bases in Australia and never have been, Pine cap is a joint monitoring base manned by both Australians and American. The U.S has always used our bases as we have theirs.

Australia is one of the world leaders in Defence technology In fact one of the defence systems which is at the core of all this is called JORN

.The Jindalee Operational Radar Network (JORN) is an over-the-horizon radar network that can monitor air and sea movements across 37,000 km2. It has an official range of 3,000 km. It is used in the defence of Australia and can also monitor maritime operations, wave heights and wind directions. And it spotted the stealth fighter as soon as the fighter enterd its radar range for the first time during an exercise.

This whole thing is about the U.S and Australia combining their abilities and resources to creat an umberella in the region.


www.defence.gov.au...
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Thank you for the clarification steve,

This base will be a great benefit for Australia and the whole region. Many joint exercises will be conducted and new and old friends will be supported and encouraged to allow democracy to flourish in our area.

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posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 02:17 AM
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What makes you so special Australia? We're in 175 other countries as well. What makes you think you can get rid of us, or should, or can?

Get in line!


edit on 14-12-2011 by Ghost375 because: that wasn't a typo. the second can was added for emphasis.



posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 02:52 AM
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The US have been here for years and will be for years to come . Ever heard of Pine Gap? The US has complete control over that area. We Australian citizens can be arrested for setting foot there! There is no customs,no checks of who or what comes in or goes out and our govt. lets it happen. Australia tries to be a big player on the world stage but we need to concentrate on stronger ties with Asia and not pissing them off by having US ( who everybody hates) bases in Australia. We need strong ties to China and India as these two super powers will be running the world in a few decades and the US will be reduced to trying to be the world police and inciting wars under false pretenses to try and keep themselves afloat. We are much better off with china,india and asia as a whole because they are our immediate neighbours and for our economic future we need to go with the leaders. We will not get invaded or anything like that but i think we will suffer if US bases are allowed here.



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posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 02:59 AM
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As an American , We don't care about Australia.. The only reason your country even exist is because England ran out of places to put it's prisoners.

I'm sorry "Convicts.". That's the preferred term for Australia's founding fathers right?


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posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 03:49 AM
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I think it is just a perve thing. They are setting up just for the perve factor.

Maybe it isn't really a looks thing but the accent. All the chicks love the American accent.

Gillard knows how to keep us Aussie Women happy and that is important because we are practically half the electorate.


I will be voting for Gillard this election.



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posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 09:30 AM
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Yes I have heard of Pine Gap, also the Exmouth base WA is interesting.
Clearly allot on this thread have no idea at all and sound like dumb down school children feed public lies all of their life. I am willing to put fait dollars down that they believe they have rights also.
9/11, Bin laden, war on terror, haarp, jfk, global warming, the Philadelphia experiment just a few that come to mind. Why any country would want or trust the U.S.A to enter and set up camp, and I am not talking about the people of America but the American Government and it’s entities like its forces, have me stumped.

It appears the whole planet is falling apart and it seems to be irreversible with things like the Monsanto issues, carbon taxes (here already), deadly cancerous poisons in just about everything consumable, spraying of our sky’s, drug companies, depleted uranium rounds, no longer do we use just weights and measures but fait dollars worth no more than the paper it’s on, registrations, licences of all types, ridiculous taxes, and then the entities that govern the countries and armies WOW, and law makers that change and add so frequently to the laws we could never keep up, local councils and their trumped up rates, all in all the world and its people cannot take much more, something is going to give. I truly believe we are rapidly self destructing on a globule scale.



posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 09:37 AM
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Reptius,
you don't speak for me. Or Americans. You just illustrate that there are bigots everywhere.



posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 10:46 AM
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Originally posted by stgazza
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The US have been here for years and will be for years to come . Ever heard of Pine Gap? The US has complete control over that area. We Australian citizens can be arrested for setting foot there! There is no customs,no checks of who or what comes in or goes out and our govt. lets it happen. Australia tries to be a big player on the world stage but we need to concentrate on stronger ties with Asia and not pissing them off by having US ( who everybody hates) bases in Australia. We need strong ties to China and India as these two super powers will be running the world in a few decades and the US will be reduced to trying to be the world police and inciting wars under false pretenses to try and keep themselves afloat. We are much better off with china,india and asia as a whole because they are our immediate neighbours and for our economic future we need to go with the leaders. We will not get invaded or anything like that but i think we will suffer if US bases are allowed here.



WRONG. Name the U.S manned bases in Australia? No not Pine gap as it's a joint base. Name the U.S bases in Australia? You won't be able to because there aren't any. All military bases used by the U.S in Australia are Australian bases. And protesters get arrested if they protests to long near any military establishment so don't hype up any of that crap.
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posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 10:49 AM
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Originally posted by Reptius
As an American , We don't care about Australia.. The only reason your country even exist is because England ran out of places to put it's prisoners.

I'm sorry "Convicts.". That's the preferred term for Australia's founding fathers right?


edit on 14-12-2011 by Reptius because: (no reason given)


You might want to become learned in your own history and what happened before the French saved you from the English.



posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 06:11 PM
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Steveknows ha.
Pine Gap is not only controlled by the U.S but it’s also owned by the U.S, it is U.S soil not Australia soil, do your research. So whatever you think it’s used for makes no difference to the above.
QUEENSLAND is a corporation of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA what do you think about that? But doesn’t steveknow?
If you would be more concerned about the truth you might know these things.
Ps; you wrote`` What it is is that one person without a clue starts a thread and then they get support from a whole load of others without a clue”
Really Steveknows, without a clue, com on mate you didn’t know PINE GAP IS OWNED BY THE U.S and it is U.S soil. What part of the army were you in, don’t tell me you use to put the stickers on and washed the tyres, did you have all your injections also that would explain it.
One more thing, you also wrote: ``They're not reflective of the average Aussie believe me”. True that MATE, the average Aussie wouldn’t have a clue about what’s really going on, like you they probably get their info from TV or on the news as you put it (Wako ring a bell).



posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 06:27 PM
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Originally posted by killemall
PINE GAP IS OWNED BY THE U.S and it is U.S soil.


Not so sure it's solely U.S. property. Sounds to me as if it's a joint occupation/use situation and that the land actually has never left the hands of the Australian Government.

I've underlined key points below:


1.2 The Joint Defence Facility at Pine Gap was established in 1966, pursuant to an agreement providing for a ‘joint defence space research facility’. This agreement (hereafter the Head Agreement) came into force on 9 December 1966 and has been amended twice by exchanges of notes: first in 1977, and again in 1988.

1.3 The Head Agreement requires that:

* the two Governments ‘shall establish, maintain and operate in Australia a facility for general defence research in the space field’;

* the Australian Government shall provide land for the facility which will remain vested in the Australian Government;

* the United States Government will be accorded ‘all necessary rights of access to, and joint use and occupation of, the land’; and

* the land ‘shall be considered a secure area’.[1]

1.4 The preamble to the Head Agreement alluded to the purpose of the facility when it states the following as the context in which the agreement was negotiated:

www.austlii.edu.au...



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posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 07:26 PM
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Originally posted by masqua

Originally posted by killemall
PINE GAP IS OWNED BY THE U.S and it is U.S soil.


Not so sure it's solely U.S. property. Sounds to me as if it's a joint occupation/use situation and that the land actually has never left the hands of the Australian Government.

I've underlined key points below:


1.2 The Joint Defence Facility at Pine Gap was established in 1966, pursuant to an agreement providing for a ‘joint defence space research facility’. This agreement (hereafter the Head Agreement) came into force on 9 December 1966 and has been amended twice by exchanges of notes: first in 1977, and again in 1988.

1.3 The Head Agreement requires that:

* the two Governments ‘shall establish, maintain and operate in Australia a facility for general defence research in the space field’;

* the Australian Government shall provide land for the facility which will remain vested in the Australian Government;

* the United States Government will be accorded ‘all necessary rights of access to, and joint use and occupation of, the land’; and

* the land ‘shall be considered a secure area’.[1]

1.4 The preamble to the Head Agreement alluded to the purpose of the facility when it states the following as the context in which the agreement was negotiated:

www.austlii.edu.au...



It's not. It's been stated many times on ATS that it's a joint establishment ( It's not even a real soldiers marching kind of base) But the conspiracy lot ignore that minor inconvenience as it doesn't suit their hype.



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