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Originally posted by Thurisaz
reply to post by yourmaker
are you saying, 'abolish homeland security?'
Just because the SS had a security dept or any other phase of Govt around the world throughout history, doesn't mean it is a precursor to a regime.
The title is misleading also. Homeland Security vs the Secret Service?
Are you comparing the two?
If so, HS is visible, any SS is not and therefore, SS is secret in all areas...
HS would not even know who the SS people were.
Originally posted by 46ACE
Originally posted by FurvusRexCaeli
reply to post by thehoneycomb
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Note, making the other military branches a police force isn't unconstitutional. The Militia (National Guard) is charged with executing US law in Article I, Section 8. The rest of the military can be used for law enforcement, too, but there are statutes restricting when and where that can be done.
Ever heard of "posse comittatus"? It used to protect the U.s. public from being policed by the military(who are trained,staffed and equipped to destroy opposing Armies). ;it's been watered down but I don't believe repealed. The intentions behind it are IMHO very appropriate and applicable to just this kind of expansion of federal "police" power..edit on 13-12-2011 by 46ACE because: (no reason given)edit on 13-12-2011 by 46ACE because: (no reason given)
Until a few weeks ago I thought Posse Comitatus protected us from the government using troops as police as well, but then I decided to look it up and it is not what I thought at all. They can absolutely conduct operations on US soil. I really don't even understand the point of Posse Comitatus after reading about it because it does not do anything to protect anybody, except the corrupt government.
This
On September 26, 2006, President Bush urged Congress to consider revising federal laws so that U.S. armed forces could restore public order and enforce laws in the aftermath of a natural disaster, terrorist attack or incident, or other condition.
pretty much eviscerated Posse Comitatus, not that it actually had teeth prior. George W. Bush is a traitor, and should be hung.
I don't understand why my whole post is formatted as a quote. I don't see the end quote code at the bottom, and I'm not very good at the HTML tag stuff... You are bright enough to figure it out.edit on 13-12-2011 by DragonTattooz because: (no reason given)
Me:
Note, making the other military branches a police force isn't unconstitutional. The Militia (National Guard) is charged with executing US law in Article I, Section 8. The rest of the military can be used for law enforcement, too, but there are statutes restricting when and where that can be done.
Originally posted by 46ACE
Ever heard of "posse comittatus"?
It used to protect the U.s. public from being policed by the military(who are trained,staffed and equipped to destroy opposing Armies).
Originally posted by Vardoger
Did you know that "Department of Homeland Security", translated into Russian, is "Komitet Gosudarstvennoy Bezopasnosti"...or KGB..
Just saying.
reply to post by thehoneycomb
This is the GOV what do you mean Unconstitutional??? have you not read or herd of S1867 or HR1540? it does just this makes the Mil the US police force, turns the USA into a Battlefield and we the people are governed by the rules and law's of war.