Homeland Security vs the SS

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posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 11:35 AM
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Originally posted by Thurisaz
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are you saying, 'abolish homeland security?'

Just because the SS had a security dept or any other phase of Govt around the world throughout history, doesn't mean it is a precursor to a regime.

The title is misleading also. Homeland Security vs the Secret Service?

Are you comparing the two?

If so, HS is visible, any SS is not and therefore, SS is secret in all areas...
HS would not even know who the SS people were.


I think it is apparent that the similarities are acute. That They now feel that They can control Us enough even out in the open, telling Us what We should believe on TV, is a sign of Their chutzpah.

An interesting parallel can also be found in the book, 1984.... Just sayin'.




posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 12:31 PM
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The ShutzStaffel were the Uber Nazi of pure racial identity. They superceded

the SA the thugs who helped Hitler come to power after they were found to be

highly corrupt as well as the leader and many of his disciples being

HomoSexuals.

The SS differed from the DHS in that they were an actual fighting force .

Comprising the elite fighting forces of the Nazis via the Waffen SS. Similar

to our Special Forces.

A better analogy to DHS and their secretive nature would be the Gestapo who

were more concerned with quelling dissenters and free thinkers and silencing

them and their movement.


The SS ran the prison camps and were in charge of exterminating non

aryans...and not only Jews but also Africans and Gypsies as well.

But I do agree that with the Patriot Act and the recent legislation to declare

the US a battlefield (?) and subsequently deny Americans any fundamental

rights and thereby silencing them....as well as readying of the Fema camps...

The similarities are uncanny.

PEACE


My last wouldn't post I think that it might explain a thing or two as to who's watching us here...




posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 12:51 PM
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Originally posted by 46ACE

Originally posted by FurvusRexCaeli
reply to post by thehoneycomb

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Note, making the other military branches a police force isn't unconstitutional. The Militia (National Guard) is charged with executing US law in Article I, Section 8. The rest of the military can be used for law enforcement, too, but there are statutes restricting when and where that can be done.


Ever heard of "posse comittatus"? It used to protect the U.s. public from being policed by the military(who are trained,staffed and equipped to destroy opposing Armies). ;it's been watered down but I don't believe repealed. The intentions behind it are IMHO very appropriate and applicable to just this kind of expansion of federal "police" power..
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Until a few weeks ago I thought Posse Comitatus protected us from the government using troops as police as well, but then I decided to look it up and it is not what I thought at all. They can absolutely conduct operations on US soil. I really don't even understand the point of Posse Comitatus after reading about it because it does not do anything to protect anybody, except the corrupt government.

This


On September 26, 2006, President Bush urged Congress to consider revising federal laws so that U.S. armed forces could restore public order and enforce laws in the aftermath of a natural disaster, terrorist attack or incident, or other condition.

pretty much eviscerated Posse Comitatus, not that it actually had teeth prior. George W. Bush is a traitor, and should be hung.

I don't understand why my whole post is formatted as a quote. I don't see the end quote code at the bottom, and I'm not very good at the HTML tag stuff... You are bright enough to figure it out.
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posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 12:56 PM
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Did you know that "Department of Homeland Security", translated into Russian, is "Komitet Gosudarstvennoy Bezopasnosti"...or KGB..

Just saying.



posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 01:19 PM
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one more time-

ashkeNAZI

Its so close to your faces you cannot see it.
More than rocket science came over on Operation Paperclip.

There are things too true to be believed.
Your programming prevents you from seeing the truth-(fear shame and guilt) and an angry God thats gonna eat you(more programming) Group think-. If you hate arabs then you are antisemitic- if you hate jews-thats what they want. (sin and blaspheme by proxy)


The jews that arent jews are
Nazi Sumerian god
Nazi is a god in Sumerian mythology, one of the eight deities born to relieve the illness of Enki. While he was born from a god Nazi was believed to be a man.[1] He was the consort of the goddess Nindar.
The Word “Nazi” Means Snake, Lifeless/Destroyed Soul, and Shadow (for Jinns: Shadow Beings)
The Sumerian tablet titled, ‘Enki And Ninhursag: The Affairs Of The Water-God’, reads:
Ninhursag: “My brother, what hurts thee?”
Enki: “my [unknown word] hurts me.”
Ninhursag: “To the god Nazi I gave birth for thee.”
And later in this tablet:
Enki: “Let Nazi marry Nindar”
The name Nazi translates to, “to destroy the past”, or “destroyed”. “Na”, is a Sumerian word that when used as a prefix denotes past-tense. “Zi”, can mean either “life”, “breath”, “soul”, or “to destroy”. In a past-tense, Na-Zi can be translated as one of the following: lived, soulless, or destroyed. Either way, Na-Zi would regard an end to life in some form or another. The traditional origin of the term Nazi is “National Socialism”. Every single person I have presented the theory of the term actually being derived from the deity claim it is merely coincidence. They say there is no way National Socialism is just a mask, a smoke screen, for the true purpose of the Third Reich. Maybe National Socialism was a convenient cover. If so, it was obviously very effective, no less. (You all accuse Obama and liberals as Socialists--and the Republicans are basically Nationalists) No change.

II. Many regions produced the swastika, the most well-known being Norway. The one I am focussing on here is Sumer. The swastika was a symbol of power to the Sumerians. It symbolised the eternal cycle of power. To the Sumerian, it was life, just as it symbolised Odin’s Wheel in Norway, the eternal cycles of time. This is not to say his true source for the swastika was Sumer, but perhaps it helped in his decision to utilize it.

III. Around 2000 BC, Semitic nomads invaded Mesopotamia and over time the region became dominantly Semitic, and eventually completely Semitic. Signs are pointing to the war waged on Jews by Hitler to have origins in this act. That the destruction of Sumer by the Semites could be an influencing factor in Hitler’s war is not an impossibility.

IV. It is well-known that Hitler studied Sumerian culture. Around the time of the Third Reich, Germany was one of the many cultures excavating Mesopotamia. It wouldn’t be too far off to surmise he discovered a few things about their culture that fueled his quest.

No...I'm afraid its much worse than you could imagine
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posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 02:49 PM
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Just a quick thought. In the 50's and 60's "communism" was the watch word of the day. But since the fall of Russia, we have more surveillance and government control than we have ever had. It's that once the "enemy" is gone, we become more and more like that which we hated.



posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 03:53 PM
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Reichstaff fire = 9/11

Thats how the started WW2. Look up the old Bush/Hitler threads. You guys are about 5 years into WW3. WW2 wasn't called that till after. It was "The War to end all wars"



posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 04:40 PM
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Me:
Note, making the other military branches a police force isn't unconstitutional. The Militia (National Guard) is charged with executing US law in Article I, Section 8. The rest of the military can be used for law enforcement, too, but there are statutes restricting when and where that can be done.



Originally posted by 46ACE
Ever heard of "posse comittatus"?

Yes, I've heard of the Posse Comitatus Act. It is a statute, not an article or amendment of the Constitution. Congress can, at any time, for any reason, pass a law contrary to the Posse Comitatus Act, and that law will not be unconstitutional on that account. Furthermore, the Act itself contains the language, "except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress." That language is unnecessary, but should make it obvious to even the most casual observer that the PCA does not restrict the government's Constitutional authority to utilize the military to execute the laws of the United States.


It used to protect the U.s. public from being policed by the military(who are trained,staffed and equipped to destroy opposing Armies).

Some of the military is. Some of it is trained, staffed, and equipped to destroy opposing navies or air forces ... or to conduct stability and support operations, or civil affairs, or surveillance, or forensics, and there's an entire branch that polices the US public "on, under and over the high seas and waters subject to the jurisdiction of the United States." The military does a lot more than destroy armies. Anyway, the PCA only applies to the Army and the Air Force. It doesn't apply to the Navy or the Marines or the Coast Guard, or the Army National Guard and Air National Guard in their Title 32 status.



posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 04:49 PM
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Originally posted by Vardoger
Did you know that "Department of Homeland Security", translated into Russian, is "Komitet Gosudarstvennoy Bezopasnosti"...or KGB..

Just saying.

KGB = Committee for State Security
Department of Homeland Security would be something like Ministerstvo Rodina Bezopasnosti. (I'm not even go to try to make it grammatical.) Committee and department may be semantics (I think they are not), but the difference between a state and a homeland is important.



posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 05:39 PM
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This is the GOV what do you mean Unconstitutional??? have you not read or herd of S1867 or HR1540? it does just this makes the Mil the US police force, turns the USA into a Battlefield and we the people are governed by the rules and law's of war.


Yes I am aware of that, but it's easier said than done. The point I was trying to make earlier was that as the DHS is as of now, it does not have very much in the way of military support. However they do have the support of some aspects. However it is much more like a police force. And to operate within the constitutional boundaries (for now) it must remain a police force, not a military power. That said, if WWIII kicks off, be watching for a a change regarding the powers of DHS. When it comes to defending the "homeland" people will first rally around their country to fight off an opposing force. By doing so, it may create an atmosphere in which DHS gains military power by changing the rules a bit as we have seen done before.

The other side of the coin however is that most US soldiers, not all, will come into conflict if they are given orders to turn their backs on the citizens, the very same people they are supposed to defend. However there are some that will, and some that have and even branches within the military itself which are given orders by DHS itself rather than DOD.

Like the SS, there are certain aspects that remain in control of DOD during times of piece, but during times of war the powers may be transferred to DHS. It is like they are using the same text book, and playing the same calls once again as the SS.

Point being, that the bills you mentioned are pre-emptive, they also don't go into affect for 60 days, so at this time you will see changes in the structure of our military and police forces. That is when you will know that TS is about to HTF.



posted on Jun, 19 2013 @ 03:55 PM
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Quick statement and question why has a homeland security trailer been positioned in a business parking lot now for two days in Morganton NC Right beside the day program I attend in Burke county?





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