Originally posted by GLontra
If think that in this case they become people like Augustin Banyaga:

Originally posted by GLontra
Let's re-examine the claims of OP.

OP says that, the more distant from "the source" (Africa), more advanced the people are.

Well... America was the last continent to be colonized by our species, homo sapiens. So, it's the most distant continent from "the source".

The original peoples from the American continent were NOT more advanced than the African peoples.

The Cherokee, the Sioux, the Apache, the Iroquois, the Navajo, were NOT more advanced than the African tribes by the time of the arrival of the first European colonizers.

The tribes from the South American rain forest were also not more advanced than the Africans.

By the time when the European colonizers started to come to America, around the year 1500, the Benin Empire, and the Kingdom of Kongo, both in Africa, were way more advanced than the Cherokee, the Sioux, the Apache, the Iroquois, or the Navajo tribes.

Originally posted by manontrial
Why are the African countries less developed? Are you kidding me?

If you think all men are created equal, or we're all the same on the inside, you're an idiot.

Go out and actually MEET some black people, polynesians or Aussie aboriginies are a good place to start, you'll be more than impressed by how 'awesome' these f**ken people are.
After you're sick to death of them, go to South Africa, where the black people are just incredible examples of human kindness.

Why are they less developed, you've got to be kidding.

Originally posted by Hanslune

Originally posted by GLontra
Let's re-examine the claims of OP.

OP says that, the more distant from "the source" (Africa), more advanced the people are.

Well... America was the last continent to be colonized by our species, homo sapiens. So, it's the most distant continent from "the source".

The original peoples from the American continent were NOT more advanced than the African peoples.

The Cherokee, the Sioux, the Apache, the Iroquois, the Navajo, were NOT more advanced than the African tribes by the time of the arrival of the first European colonizers.

The tribes from the South American rain forest were also not more advanced than the Africans.

By the time when the European colonizers started to come to America, around the year 1500, the Benin Empire, and the Kingdom of Kongo, both in Africa, were way more advanced than the Cherokee, the Sioux, the Apache, the Iroquois, or the Navajo tribes.

Did you forget the Mayan, Olmecs, Toltecs, Aztecs, Incas and others?

Originally posted by GLontra

Originally posted by Hanslune

Originally posted by GLontra


Did you forget the Mayan, Olmecs, Toltecs, Aztecs, Incas and others?


The Mayan, Olmecs, Toltecs, Aztecs and Incas were in the Bronze Age around the year 1500, while the Benin Empire and the Kingdom of Kongo already worked iron, thus being in the Iron Age.

So the ability to process iron is the arbitrator of success then? But wait didn't they obtain the ability to make Iron from other earlier cultures? I believe they did. Care to guess when Mexico and Peru obtained there first iron making facilities from the Spanish influence?

Perhaps you should set forth your criteria and parameters for grading societies?

Originally posted by GLontra
Originally posted by Hanslune
]Originally posted by GLontra


Did you forget the Mayan, Olmecs, Toltecs, Aztecs, Incas and others?


The Mayan, Olmecs, Toltecs, Aztecs and Incas were in the Bronze Age around the year 1500, while the Benin Empire and the Kingdom of Kongo already worked iron, thus being in the Iron Age.



So the ability to process iron is the arbitrator of success then? But wait didn't they obtain the ability to make Iron from other earlier cultures? I believe they did. Care to guess when Mexico and Peru obtained there first iron making facilities from the Spanish influence?

Perhaps you should set forth your criteria and parameters for grading societies?


The Sub-Saharan kingdoms of the early 16th century were NOT less developed than the Mayan, Olmecs, Toltecs, Aztecs or Incas, by any criteria. They were more, or at least as much developed.

Originally posted by GLontra

Originally posted by Idonthaveabeard
The further away you get from where it all started?

Humans thought to have originated from africa and eventually migrated north east and west. The further away you get from Africa, specially north and West, the more developed countrys you will find. Why is this? Surely Africa as a continent should be the most developed region since thats where humans have been the longest? But its one of the least developed you will find on Earth.

edit on 13/12/2011 by kosmicjack because: helped clarify title