Originally posted by ntech
I have been studying the Christian Apocalypse for awhile here and I found a problem. The problem is this.

Revelation 8-1
And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.

According to this and a reading of 2nd Peter 3-8 if you do the math that half hour is supposed to be a 20 to 21 year gap between the opening of the 7th seal and the first trumpet. But if I do the math it appears the 6th seal of Revelation should have opened no later than Dec of 2004. It appears to be 7 years late.

Anybody got any ideas on what detail I could be missing here? Could this gap be something other than 20 years?

Now here is the background on what I have so far.

To start with the Apocalypse per Matthew 24 is supposed to be an event that lasts the lifetime of the generation being born at the time of the first end time event. Per the fig tree prophecy and the predictions of a reborn nation of Israel in the old testament the rebirth of Israel in 1948 should have been a end time event. Matthew 24-14 being the first but with Israel we have a solid date to work with about a 3 year variance. 1945 to 1948.

The Apocalypse according to Matthew 24 is at least 63 years old. Which is a major problem. Because based on the fig tree parable and Hosea 6-2 I put the end of the Apocalypse at no later than 2028. So assuming that May 15 2028 is the absolute last possible end date of the apocalypse then to work forward 3.5 years and assuming that date is when the first trumpet sounds is at the placement of the abomination of desolation then the math is saying right now the gap is 10-13 years and shrinking.

And it appears the last saint of the 5th seal of Rev. is taking his time. Any thoughts?

edit on 12-12-2011 by ntech because: (no reason given)

Originally posted by ntech

nd the predictions of a reborn nation of Israel in the old testament the rebirth of Israel in 1948 should have been a end time event. Matthew 24-14 being the first but with Israel we have a solid date to work with about a 3 year variance. 1945 to 1948.

Originally posted by ntech
It would appear that becoming critical here though. So here's how I see it.

Based on the rebirth of Israel in 1948 and the fig tree parable of Matthew I get this. The Apocalypse should be over with at the 80 year anniversary of the creation of the nation of Israel. No later. However it could end up to 3 years sooner. August of 2025. So based on that the 7 year agreement of Daniel 9-27 must be signed between 2018 to 2021. That means the preliminary events must happen between now in 2012 to the 7 year agreement.

The preliminary events are as follows but may not be in order.

The destruction of Persia. The rebuilding of the Jewish temple. The Gog-Magog disaster. The 6th seal of Revelation. Which may be part of the same event. The collapse of the United States into the 4 republics. Along with a number of other governments collapsing as well. And the formation of the kingdoms of the north and south of Daniel 11.

Then the 7 year agreement is signed and the world starts down that road.


And BTW there are plenty of online bibles available too eeks4.

Originally posted by ntech


They cannot hold an Apocalypse while a chosen one walks the earth you know.