Iran says it's almost done decoding US drone, page 7


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reply posted on 13-12-2011 @ 11:55 AM by hp1229
Originally posted by Danbones
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post by hp1229



obviously you didnt read far enough to see who authored the post

i expected that from you thats why i chose a post with pictures


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edit on 13-12-2011 by Danbones because: added peacefull smiley

I guess not.

Your response didn't include Danbones so thus the confusion.

Acknowledged.


reply posted on 13-12-2011 @ 11:57 AM by Danbones
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why did obama ask for the drone back then
Obama Confirms Asking Iran for Drone Back


news.antiwar.com...

you haven't read the thread have you?


reply posted on 13-12-2011 @ 11:58 AM by Danbones
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you are quite welcome to back your empty rhetoric up with references ala deny ignorance
but
the best you can do is trite
trite =defeat
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reply posted on 13-12-2011 @ 12:11 PM by AwakeinNM
Originally posted by chrismicha77

So they reverse engineer this dronel God help us! It won't be long before we has Iranian drones flying in our country but lucky for us, they won't make it far without getting blown to smitherings. But other countries won't be that lucky and they will take advantage of it.Anyone else this could led to the bombing of Iran?

news.yahoo.com
(visit the link for the full news article)
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The whole event smells like a theatrical production to manufacture an excuse to invade Iran.

A $6 million drone "malfunctions"?? I doubt it. I am sure the engineering on those things is a little more advanced than that.


reply posted on 13-12-2011 @ 12:31 PM by hp1229
Originally posted by Danbones
reply to
post by hp1229


you are quite welcome to back your empty rhetoric up with references ala deny ignorance
but
the best you can do is trite
trite =defeat
edit on 13-12-2011 by Danbones because: (no reason given)

Empty Rhetoric? Where? Back your viewpoint first with a appropriate quotation followed by explanation.

First of all, I thought you had not included complete information so I acknowledged thinking it was a confusion in responding to the wrong person.
Second, this is not a game to win or lose. Its a discussion forum. If you do not like my opinions then thats just fine. I'm not going to sit here and convince the world.
Third, instead of typing short incoherant sentences, type exactly what you wish to discuss.
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reply posted on 13-12-2011 @ 12:50 PM by Alien Abduct
reply to post by chrismicha77



There isn't many secrets to decode we left all of our top secret tech off of the drones for this purpose. Here ya go, Muzzleflash put it pretty good in his post in another thread. Sorry if this bursts your bubble.

Come on do you really think we are that dumb?


Originally posted by muzzleflash
Here is a link to some info: RQ-170 Sentinel wiki

Aviation Week postulates that these elements suggest the designers have avoided 'highly sensitive technologies' due to the near certainty of eventual operational loss inherent with a single engine design and a desire to avoid the risk of compromising leading edge technology.


I guess that means Iran won't have any cool stuff to back-engineer or sell from this take-down.
Maybe the AESA radar, but I somewhat doubt even that much.
Oh well.

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-Alien


reply posted on 13-12-2011 @ 02:46 PM by Danbones
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Where in that dilectible diatribe is here a reference to anything approaching verification for anything you have previously stated here on this thread?

that was my simple request

I simply stated the obvious to spur you to reach above the the typical postal dross to motivate you to actually get of the bench and get in the game...

Deny ignorance eh wot?



reply posted on 13-12-2011 @ 02:51 PM by hp1229
Originally posted by Danbones
reply to
post by hp1229


Where in that dilectible diatribe is here a reference to anything approaching verification for anything you have previously stated here on this thread?
that was my simple request
I simply stated the obvious to spur you to reach above the the typical postal dross to motivate you to actually get of the bench and get in the game...
Deny ignorance eh wot?

Nevermind.

Lets continue with the discussion.


reply posted on 13-12-2011 @ 02:51 PM by FoosM
Originally posted by hp1229
Originally posted by Ben81
Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
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post by 31Bravo


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It is only the USA who is capable of launching nukes destroying entire civilians cities and gets aways with it
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So they used it. Thats when the Technology was perfected to end WWII.


Well next time you should volunteer your own family for such tests if you support such actions.
That would be the patriotic thing to do, amirite?

The US could have easily demonstrated the power of the bomb on a non-populated area.
Or at least used it on military targets. And lets not forget, the Japanese had already basically been basically defeated, and didnt need TWO cities to be atomized to get them to surrender.


reply posted on 13-12-2011 @ 02:56 PM by zeeon
Hi,
I'd like to throw some of my .02 cents in on this subject...first:

It is of my professional and experienced position that Iran did NOT shoot, nor Hijack this UAV down. I say professional and experienced because I have actually worked on, installed and implemented some of the technology used in these aircrafts.

First,
Tactical Common Data Link, BAE Systems, better known as TCDL is almost certainly the link the Military is using to communicate to these drones. I personally installed a prototype of this technology on HH-60H Seahawks during a western pacific deployment. I have seen how they operate, how secure they are, and how extremely complex they are. TCDL would be EXTREEMLY difficult to exploit by an agressor. Furthermore, even if they could hijack the encrypted signal - they would not possess the require Flight software to interface with the drone.

Secondly, as many have pointed out - if they had shot down the drone, there would be alot more damage than what we see there. This particular drone, the RQ-170 Sentinel is pretty small. Given it's small wingspan, onboard electronics and surviellance equipment, I can logically infer that the airframe is most likely made out of light weight composites, which would literally disintegrate if the structural integrity of the aircraft was ruptured by being shot at. What we see in the Iran video is an almost (expect for the bottom we can't see) intact airframe.

So that rules out the two senarios they have claimed thus far (that they "hacked the drone" and that they "shot it down"). Upon further analysis, you can see that the drones color is all wrong. If indeed it's mission was one of stealth (which is debatable right now) then you would definately NOT see rounded edges on the airframe. The entire point of stealth technology is absorption and deflection - hence dark paint and hard edges. Neither of which are present on this particular drone.

Furthermore, proof has been presented in other threads about this subject that the USAF and CIA have indeed shot down other drones (notably one case about the MQ-9 Reaper I believe which costs about 5 times as much as the Sentinel at about 50 million per) that they lost control of before it fell into enemy airspace.

This leads me to one of two conclusions:

1.) The CIA intentionally landed the Drone in Iran to see what they would do with it, and/or other reasons we do not know.

OR:

2.) The drone had some internal malfunction and crashed. Iran found the crash site, probably were able to identify it as a drone - and then built a mock up for propaganda reasons.

What I can tell you with almost certainty is that Iran did not shoot down this drone, nor did they hijack it with Electronic Countermeasures. I have 13 years in Naval Aviation and Electronics, working with aircrafts and with prototype avionics. I think I'm fairly qualified to make an informed judgement


reply posted on 13-12-2011 @ 03:09 PM by cocolopez
reply to post by JAY1980



There were about 4 choices the USA had with the drone once the Iranians got control of it. They didn't use any of them. You really think they didn't want Iran to have this for some reason unknown to us, come on.
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reply posted on 13-12-2011 @ 03:13 PM by Gorman91
reply to post by chrismicha77



Hold on for a moment.

A theocratic nation that things God himself will come to rescue them is claiming to have decoded a US drone in a matter of days, and claims it can reproduce it.


Ha.

And a ho ho ho to you too.
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