Iran says it's almost done decoding US drone

Propaganda....I say that this was completely deliberate on the U.S.'s part. Give them a "copy" a flawed one, one that the US can track, one the U.S. wants to be copied, this would help the US black budget to come up with a better drone or spy/attack system and keep the U.S. intel agency well on the track of the information exchanges between countries. You know...Give the mouse the cheese and follow it to the nest type of deal.

That drone looked awful beige in color and seemed to have flaws in its stealth physical make up. Look at it, something is wrong ...It's doesn't quite match up to the real deal somehow......

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I'd like to see you laughing when a squadron of your top of the range fighters go to Iran and don't return.

Because that's the implications of Iran detecting and downing this Stealth Drone.

Have a good day

Well to me its pretty obvious whats up:

Its a "Gift" from the USA to Iran?

In 1946, Soviet school children presented a two foot wooden replica of the Great Seal of the United States to Ambassador Averell Harriman.

The Ambassador hung the seal in his office in Spaso House (Ambassador's residence).
During George F. Kennan's ambassadorship in 1952, a secret technical surveillance countermeasures (TSCM) inspection discovered that the seal contained a microphone and a resonant cavity which could be stimulated from an outside radio signal.

To include better gifts these days to RFID and such like GPS I am sure the USA is learning as much about the place where this "gift" is being unwrapped, and being said around it as the Iranians are from seeing it.

Kind Regards,

Elf

Why can you people not believe that america made a Big mistake?
first the drone should Not have been spying on them.

Iran have a real drone. and america will never admit to that.
Iran now has that technology. and will give it to China.
and maybe Russia.

propaganda! will not save america.
and I hope the sheep on ATS will see that.

They should stop Bullying the rest of the world.
If I can just figure out a way to stop the american nuclear subs.
China and Russia can bomb the hell out of america.

Originally posted by chrismicha77

So they reverse engineer this dronel God help us! It won't be long before we has Iranian drones flying in our country but lucky for us, they won't make it far without getting blown to smitherings. But other countries won't be that lucky and they will take advantage of it.Anyone else this could led to the bombing of Iran?

news.yahoo.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

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Any Drones made by Iran...flying over the USA... will be 'captured' rather than blown out-of-the-sky... the residents and some citizens sure don't want metal or high-carbon fuselages raining down on them


it would be bad for any reelection chances-


if the Iranians can electronically hijack a stealth drone... why wouldn't the USA be capable of the same thing?
No, instead of a missile, the USA would deploy a big fishnet to snare the Drone, maybe something out of the Batman stories with a missile that casts a net to ground the device/Drone

As for all the "Iran captures US drone" issue I have a hard time believing the shown aspects...

1st you have to ask yourself if the codes could be really hacked by Russians or Chinese experts, don't get me wrong, I have no doubts about them having some scientific experts but would the US just let slip this technology away?

And why did the US didn't take a stand yet if the "leaked" pictures actually show the very drone which went m.i.a. ? Because there was some speculation if the drone is the one in question...

Originally posted by On the level
Agree with one of the posters, the fact this hasnt been bricked or self destructed makes me smell a rat.

Does Iran say they have this drone decoded or does the US say Iran says they have it decoded?

I would think many times before believing anything that the US says Iran says in the first place.

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my friend, if you can't understand what I meant by what I wrote then stop trying to it is called a metaphor and it's taught in basic language skills

now, to move to another subject:

it's not about the drone it's about the communications. Military drones use a type of encrypted sattelite communications, that's how they are being controlled. The question is did they manage to intercept and hijack the communications to the drone thus making it land safely or did the US deliberatly give control to the drone. Both cases stand.

in the first case, it means that Iran has a far superior infromation warfare capabilities than the world previously thought, or they got help by someone, could be either the russians or the chinese, these two are known for fighting infowars.

in the second case, what could the reason be for the US to deliberatly give acces to the encrypted military communications, thus exposing both the sattelites and the functionalities of the drone?

I say it again, it's not about the drone, it's almost the same as my AR drone that i control with my iphone but it's about the communications. everything is linked today

Originally posted by kobewan69
it's not about the drone it's about the communications. Military drones use a type of encrypted sattelite communications, that's how they are being controlled. The question is did they manage to intercept and hijack the communications to the drone thus making it land safely or did the US deliberatly give control to the drone. Both cases stand.

The most likely scenario is that Iran just jammed communications, I doubt they took control. Those drones have a relatively soft landing by design if the engine fails or something.

And to the people talking about weapons, this drone didn't have any.

The biggest question is, did the thermite charges properly ignite and destroy the sensitive electronics? As long as that happened, the loss was somewhat expected. They didn't put the most advanced technology in this drone for that reason, because a loss was expected eventually, read the wiki on the RQ-170.

I can't imagine too much could be accessed through this drone anyways...I mean, if it was a potential key to breaking into the entire virtual infrastructure of the American armed forces, they would be fighting tooth and nail to get it back!

I think the two likely scenarios are probably

1) A costly mistake - and it will be written off (and hopefully, a lesson learnt by the US)

2) A deliberate mistake made by the US - I remember reading about the supposed difficulties that the US etc faced in planting the Stuxnet virus successfully into the Iranian infrastructure. This may well be a very elaborate (and expensive) trojan horse.

One thing i've definately noticed in the past few years is an increasingly gung ho approach from the US with things like this, coupled with a very nonchalant attitude. Calmness in the eye of the storm, or a lack of decisiveness? Cant work it out...

Originally posted by On the level
Agree with one of the posters, the fact this hasnt been bricked or self destructed makes me smell a rat. If a phone company can brick an iphone they surely America can stop a drone from being accessed. Think this is a ploy to let them develop the tech and we can just watch what they are up to.

They may not have had enough time to brick it if the signals were jammed properly right away. Cell and satellite. Jamming tech is widely available. This would have been easy for them to do if they got to it quick enough.

do we have a communication engineer to get his view on the whole thing?

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Yes the usa has had many for many years

History of USA "Communication Engineers"

Who they learnt from and "model" now:

"I will provide a propagandistic casus belli. Its credibility doesn't matter. The victor will not be asked whether he told the truth."

The best "Communication Engineers" in the world my friend.

Kind Regards,

Elf

Can you say Trojan horse? Makes me wonder if they uploaded some nasty virus/tracker into the drone because they knew they would try and hack it. Or they could have just uploaded it with a ton of porn haha

Excellent news.

They've accomplished much more than they could possibly be aware of at this point in time.

Originally posted by Truth4Thought
reply to post by chrismicha77

 

Do you advocate the bombing of Iran?

YES! Into a glass surfaced parking lot.

Second line.

reply to post by chrismicha77


If we cannot get a Drone through their air defenses then it's highly unlikely that we could fly right in and "Bomb" Iran.

Which was the intent of this stealth drone to begin with. To test the Iranians air defenses to stealth aircraft.

Unfortunately for the US not only were the Iranians defense able to locate a small stealth drone they were also able land the craft intact to capture all of our technology before it could be destroyed.

More importantly they now have all of our encryption algorithms and communication frequencies and protocols.
Even the command structure used in the drones themselves providing more insight into the Drones capabilities and our intentions as to whether we'd use them for Bio Warfare for example.

As far as the Iranians retaliating....that isnt their way...they are only trying to defend their home.

It's the Bankers who want there Oil profits back that they'd stolen from the Iranians during the Shah's regime.

And also to \prevent the Iranians from selling their oil for currencies other than US Dollars.

As well as the need to bomb the Iranians into giving it back.

And not vice versa....the Iranians wouldn't waste their time flying a drone to the US.

What's there to take pictures of anyway ? Malls, Fast Food drive thrus and FEMA encampments ?

All of our sensitive stuff is underground anyway and they are fully aware of that already.


Peace

Originally posted by Arbitrageur
]The most likely scenario is that Iran just jammed communications, I doubt they took control. Those drones have a relatively soft landing by design if the engine fails or something.

Highly unlikely.
A flying wing is a very unstable aerodynamic shape.
You have to literally fly these suckers to the ground in a soft landing.

And to the people talking about weapons, this drone didn't have any.

The biggest question is, did the thermite charges properly ignite and destroy the sensitive electronics? As long as that happened, the loss was somewhat expected. They didn't put the most advanced technology in this drone for that reason, because a loss was expected eventually, read the wiki on the RQ-170.

Yes most likely no cutting edge electronics in there,

Originally posted by JohhnyBGood
Maybe it was deliberate - and full of hidden viruses!

That'sooooooooooooo obvious that hurts!

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Well, it does belong to them now.
We were playing in the wrong neighborhood and our ball flew over the wrong fence.
We should never had been in that neighborhood in the first place.
Hopefully Iran will share all of the tech involved and everyone can have them.
Who was the idiot who designed that without an autodestruct?