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I'm beginning to believe that everything is a lie...

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posted on Dec, 12 2011 @ 03:41 AM
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Does anyone else feel like you are forced to pick sides, almost conditioned to do so? Republican or Democrat, does it really matter? I feel like both sides are wrong. I feel like we are being lied too, made to believe that one side truely has the answer. It seems like people are being distracted from real solutions. What if a resolution to the United States massive debt crisis wasn't meant to be reached? Does anyone else think that the Fed is the ultimate reason that we are in economic trouble? Do politicians really think that we are so naive, that we don't think they know how the Federal Reserve works? I want to hear from you. I know there are a ton of questions above, but I just want to know if anyone is on the same page I am.




posted on Dec, 12 2011 @ 03:50 AM
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Big news my friend, it does not end at Republican or democrat. It extends to optimistic or pessimistic. Happy or depressed and more over, good or evil.

Our entire existence is based on a duality. We have no other choice, human nature will not allow us the luxury of a Utopian society. Why exactly this is...... Is up for serious debate but facts are facts.

Humans can not live without conflict, our brains can not understand a world without it, we crave it, we need it, we rely on it. Republican or Democrat? Your on stage 1.
edit on 12-12-2011 by Helious because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 12 2011 @ 03:52 AM
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I once heard someone say it was like the tagline for Alien vs Predator. "Whoever Wins We Lose."



posted on Dec, 12 2011 @ 03:57 AM
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I once heard someone say it was like the tagline for Alien vs Predator. "Whoever Wins We Lose."


If that is true then why should we stand for it?



posted on Dec, 12 2011 @ 04:12 AM
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if only i could give you 100 stars, this post is the answer to all the questions we ask
if we had this response we wouldnt ask the question
but then what would happen?



posted on Dec, 12 2011 @ 04:44 AM
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The world is like a ride in an amusement park and when we choose to go on it we think it's real, because thats's how powerful our minds are. And it goes up and down and round and round, it has thrills and chills and its very brightly colored and very loud, and it's fun - for a while.

Some people have been on the ride for a long time and after a while they begin to question: Is this real, or is it just a ride? But some people have remembered, and they come back to us and they say. "Hey, don't worry and don't be afraid ever, because this is just a ride" - and we kill those people...

"Shut him up! Ive got a lot invested in this ride... Look at my furrows of worry... Look at my big bank account... Look at my family... This has to be real"

But it's just a ride.

But we always kill those good guys who try to tell us that and we let the demons run amok. But it doesnt matter, because it's just a ride - and we can change it any time we want.

All we need is the choice.

No effort, no work, no job, no savings or money - just a choice - right now - between fear & love.

The eyes of fear want you to put bigger locks on your doors, buy guns and and close yourself off, the eyes of love instead, see all of us as one.

Here's what we can do to change the world to a better ride right now. Take all the money we spend on weapons and defence each year and instead spend it feeding, clothing and educating the poor of the world, which it would many times over, not one human being excluded and we can explore space...

together...

both inner and outer...

forever...

...in peace.

- Bill Hicks (1961 - 1994 R.I.P.)



posted on Dec, 12 2011 @ 04:57 AM
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If everything is a lie... then you are lying to us




posted on Dec, 12 2011 @ 05:09 AM
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Originally posted by Helious
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Humans can not live without conflict, our brains can not understand a world without it, we crave it, we need it, we rely on it.


I disagree. We can easily live without conflict, but socialization plays a major role in our perception of reality, especially in regards to how the world operates. Because we live in a world at war we find war to be acceptable, while peace becomes a utopian myth. Of course there is going to be minor conflict and we all have to deal with some petty problems, but I don't think that the humanity being in a state of perpetual, unending warfare is primeval.

If we educate people properly we can easily overcome our current situation; the problem is mass ignorance accompanied by indifference topped off with a culture which praises both.



posted on Dec, 12 2011 @ 06:12 AM
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Originally posted by audioengineer
Does anyone else feel like you are forced to pick sides, almost conditioned to do so? Republican or Democrat, does it really matter? I feel like both sides are wrong. I feel like we are being lied too, made to believe that one side truely has the answer. It seems like people are being distracted from real solutions. What if a resolution to the United States massive debt crisis wasn't meant to be reached? Does anyone else think that the Fed is the ultimate reason that we are in economic trouble? Do politicians really think that we are so naive, that we don't think they know how the Federal Reserve works? I want to hear from you. I know there are a ton of questions above, but I just want to know if anyone is on the same page I am.


Many of us who come to this site and other conspiracy sites for that matter DO know how the Federal Reserve works. However, I would guess that this number is quite small compared to the majority who are clueless to what is going on. And it's not that I think these millions of people are that naive I just feel that they don't want to believe that their own government would allow the Fed to literally screw over Americans. Greed and Power are very powerful motivators and so is ignorant bliss...



posted on Dec, 12 2011 @ 06:22 AM
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Originally posted by audioengineer
Does anyone else feel like you are forced to pick sides, almost conditioned to do so?

Yes. Generations after generation has handed down that mindset.

Republican or Democrat, does it really matter?

No. With a Rep. POTUS and Dem. CONgress, they made bad decisions.
With a Dem. POTUS and Rep. CONgress, they made bad decisions.
So it really doesn't matter. If you study the congressional record, it's all the same.
They want to destroy America and no bill/law has been passed to help.
It's all been passed to spend or spread out the money.


I feel like both sides are wrong. I feel like we are being lied too, made to believe that one side truely has the answer. It seems like people are being distracted from real solutions. What if a resolution to the United States massive debt crisis wasn't meant to be reached?

I truly believe that is the ultimate goal.


Does anyone else think that the Fed is the ultimate reason that we are in economic trouble?

No. But it jumpstarted the slow demise of a great economic power.
The people behind the Fed and our gov't are responsible.
The committee of 300.


Do politicians really think that we are so naive, that we don't think they know how the Federal Reserve works? I want to hear from you. I know there are a ton of questions above, but I just want to know if anyone is on the same page I am.

Politicians, law enforcement, the legal system...etc.
They all collectively think the people are stupid.
They are trained to take advantage of us and trained to think we are stupid.
But, I would say that alot of people are stupid, lazy and ignorant.
Not all of America though. (or ATS users
)

If you can step away from the mindset that has been programmed in you since birth, you have a chance.
But you must let go of all the things that have been taught and passed down to you.

Our parent and grandparents were led on to believe that this country would never go bad.
They let CONgress pass enough laws and bills to wipe the wealth out of every pocket.
And all without knowing what was really taking place behind closed doors (which is unconstitutional).
The thought process of "The only thing you do in life until you die is pay taxes."
Is a lie.
A well -manicured, controlled state lie.
We have all fell for it...


BUT:
I don't blame them though...

I blame those who take advantage of the citizens.
I blame those who only know one thing in life: MONEY.


They will get theirs!







posted on Dec, 12 2011 @ 06:53 AM
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if you believe that in this life you can only have duality then im afraid you need to wake up.

Duality, there is always an in between, the point as to of which ying becomes yang, the neutral state, that is present in everything.

-1 to 0 to 1

0 is neutral

electrons to neutrons to protons

you get the point.

I do not follow the political points enough in my life to be considered either a democrat or a republican or whatever however i feel that there are certain points of view from both sides that shape the way i feel things should be.

Therefore i am the neutral, i do not side with one side but take both, i am the border breaker you were told doesn't exist, i am duality in its true form, with a merger directly in the centre of the symbol

and so are you, you just dont know it yet. ALL in due time my friend, all in due time.

Your only limitation is not the sky, it is your beliefs!

Peace
God bless



posted on Dec, 12 2011 @ 07:19 AM
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The only truth there is = is minus all lies



posted on Dec, 12 2011 @ 07:55 AM
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Personally, I don't trust any of them. I stopped going by parties long ago. I just listen and watch, and pick the one who seems the most qualified. It's really like choosing the lesser of evils
I really don't believe a word out of any of their mouths, to be honest.



posted on Dec, 12 2011 @ 10:28 AM
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I agree, you have depressed people, and happy people.

Upon finding this website, for a bit I was a little depressed, but eventually it brought me to a more knowledged state,and it was the same website I used to help me not only understand, but accept why things are the way they are.

I'm not a hardcore Taoist or anything, but for anyone who is in that phase of "Holy #, it seems like everything is BS", read the Tao Te Ching. And then... Read it again. And then probably read it one more time.



posted on Dec, 12 2011 @ 11:32 PM
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Well I work for a news agency that many despise. With that out in the open, I can tell you that I honestly believe something weird is going on. Not that the people that I work for are corrupt, but rather the smarter people there have figured it out and are too scared of saying something, too scared to be labeled a nut.



posted on Dec, 12 2011 @ 11:44 PM
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i dont feel forced to do anything actually.

but i grew up staring up at the stars and deep into my own soul. ive always felt very very old, i know my real place in this universe, i can FEEL everything.


its all just a big huge endless game, with games within games.

some games are meant for children. the games of politics and war and all those emotional upheavals.. its like a game of tag.. just because someone runs up and slaps you and tells you you're IT, doesnt mean you have to chase after them.

just smile, pat them on the head, and send them on their way.

it often seems to me the whole planet is one big play-pen. or a nest full of unhatched eggs.
edit on 12-12-2011 by BohemianBrim because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 09:45 AM
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Our entire reality is an illusion to how the world actually should be. A genetic modification was put into place so that our power is hindered. The system is nothing but a fear indicator and symbolism representing that something is higher than you..but the truth is we still have all the power deep within us.



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