Is Anyone Still Taking OWS Seriously?

reply to post by Domo1


Yet another OWS bashing thread by Domo1. Feelings on OWS aside, it's obvious you're slandering their movement at any chance you get on this board.

You stating that all OWS protestors are "clueless, scummy and self entitled dirt bags" is far from true. Sure, some are there for the wrong reasons, but your smearing generalization of the whole movement is just wrong.

I'm not even a staunch supporter of their movement & your constant posts of this nature almost sicken me.

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Originally posted by Domo1
reply to post by METACOMET

 

I disagree. I don't think people should be allowed to occupy a space for an indefinite amount of time. What if I wanted to go to the park without seeing human detritus pooing all over the place. They were allowed to stay for a fairly long time in most cases. At what point should people be kicked out? Never?

I will give them credit for opening more people up to the idea that there is something seriously wrong with the govt.

Human detritus? What the ****? Unless you happen to be rich, these are people like you and me. They are workers, they are students, a lot of them were freaking 9/11 workers - some of them national heroes, and you're calling them human detritus. They are doing whatever they can to try and change a messed up, corrupt system - you might not agree with their methods but at least they're trying.. and you're talking about them as if they are nothing but subhuman trash.

Shame on you.

Originally posted by Yazman

Originally posted by Domo1
reply to post by METACOMET

 

I disagree. I don't think people should be allowed to occupy a space for an indefinite amount of time. What if I wanted to go to the park without seeing human detritus pooing all over the place. They were allowed to stay for a fairly long time in most cases. At what point should people be kicked out? Never?

I will give them credit for opening more people up to the idea that there is something seriously wrong with the govt.

Human detritus? What the ****? Unless you happen to be rich, these are people like you and me. They are workers, they are students, a lot of them were freaking 9/11 workers - some of them national heroes, and you're calling them human detritus. They are doing whatever they can to try and change a messed up, corrupt system - you might not agree with their methods but at least they're trying.. and you're talking about them as if they are nothing but subhuman trash.

Shame on you.

It's a typical response. This place is mainly inhabited by strange creatures that are against the entire system and against those that are against the system because they (strange creatures) are actually for the system without realizing it.

I choose spit on my constitution, so I may walk in a park with my children. OWS can't be taken seriously, because it isn't in the mainstream news. How can I take something seriously if I don't here about it?

"Although I agree with some of the ideas put forth by OWS, their behavior and my personal subjective views on morals impede my critical thought process." This is all that's behind this thread.

reply to post by theovermensch


Oh, so because I think OWS was a waste I am a traitor? I am not an Obama supporter, and where did I support the government? I don't support socialism either. Just because I think OWS was a waste doesn't mean anything more than that. They had no clear goals, no leaders, and targeted the wrong thing. It attracted "socialists" and leftists by the hoards. If you support OWS, then you are a traitor and a socialist. Any self respecting American would not support OWS.

If the OWS movement had targeted our government in DC, then maybe I would have supported it. If their message had been targeted at corrupt politicians, then maybe I would have supported it. But targeting a group of wealthy people who will never, I repeat NEVER bow to OWS or their wants is a waste of time. OWS was misguided from the start, and did nothing more than infuriate average Americans with their child like behavior.

So before you go name calling, and using baseless accusations, maybe you should sit back and actually understand that the OWS movement did not reflect the sentiment of the real 99%. Don't speak for others unless you are 100% sure you actually represent their beliefs, feelings and concerns!

reply to post by ZakOlongapo


Pretty much agreeing with you.


And since I got my last post removed for off-topic...I will say that yes I still take Occupy seriously, very much so.

reply to post by Kali74


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Is Anyone Still Taking OWS Seriously?

Sad thing is .. it started out as such a good idea. (so did theTea Party). Then it got hijacked and the people left in it aren't the brightest bulbs on the Christmas Tree (just like the Tea Party). Wish one of these movements would be able to flourish and do some good without getting dirtied up by others ... (Soros, Far Right Fundamentalists, TPTB, whatever)

I Still take the OWS seriously. At least, at it's base core. I'm really sick of the OWS bashing, mainly because the people who bash don't realize that, whether you agree with the main points or not, at least these people stood up for what they believed in. the civil rights movement, Women's right's, the end of Prohibition, the creation of unions, hell the American Revolution. All these things were people fighting for a common good. OWS was fighting against the stealing from the middle/lower class and giving it to the rich at it's very core. The movement was high jacked and it seems that many people here at ATS where we "Deny Ignorance" seem to be listening to MSM and just accepting what they say as truth.... if you want real change in this world you're going to have to piss off a lot of people and if you think that just because someone doesn't like something you should just stop... then grow some balls. I hate this new world of having to be "politically correct". acting as though we live in a world where nothing you do should affect the life of anyone else... when our lives are more entwined then they have ever been in the worlds history. There is a lot of corruption in this world and if you disagreed with OWS then you shoulda gotten your a$$ out there and done something to change it, but instead what did the bashers do? nothing, but moaned and complained expecting somebody else to fix the world for them. get bent.

ETA: there are plenty of people i disagree with but would never bash. Take Westboro Baptist for example. I would never bash on them. i would debate, but never bash, because supposedly we live in a country where they have the right to think what they do. Bashing does nothing but show one's true ignorance.

I find it quite ironic that he makes this thread on the morning of what might be one of the biggest endeavors undertaken by OWS, ever.

Every single port on the west coast is about to get stormed and shut down. Three ports already have been completely blocked.

www.livestream.com...

occupystreams.org...

As of right now, it looks like the police reaction is going to be harsh and decisive, nothing like what we saw in Oakland last month during the port march.

reply to post by zanysami


So you advocate stopping the economic engine of our country instead of interrupting the governing elite who caused everything OWS has complained about? How misguided you poor souls truly are.

And I'll bet when the cops start arresting and pepper spraying those involved you will cry police brutality, won't you? The Constitution allows for you to peaceably assemble. It does not allow for stopping commerce or impeding another American from doing their job to provide for their families.

reply to post by zanysami


OWS shutting down ports is one of many reasons I don't take them serious.

Shutting down the ports hurts the working class much more than it does the "1%". The 1% isn't going to starve or not be able to provide for their family because a port is shut down for a couple days. But a working class man who is living paycheck to paycheck needs every single dollar that he can earn.

Plus, it is right before the holidays...I know many people working just a little bit extra at this time of year so they can give their family a nice holiday.

Good job OWS...way to fight for the little guy

Poorly thought out actions like this is one of the many many reasons I don't, and never have, take OWS seriously.

It died, its dead. As a product of the revolutionary 1960's and 70's....we made our points...turned around and went home ...and tried changing things from "within" the system by joining it.

And it pretty much failed too. The rich still got richer, the poor poorer. prices went up, education went down, we didnt stop the war. Instead? It all got worse.

Same with "OCCUPY". Point well taken but...nothing will change.

reply to post by haarvik


how misguided you seem to be. guess what, if someone goes to work clocks in and can't do their work it's not the workers fault. the worker is not the one that loses money. your argument is invalid, only because you seem to not understand how a job works.

same reply to outkast.

Got a problem with OWS? Then go down to your local movement and drop some wisdom as to how they should go about this in a better way, or even better start your own means of changing the system. instead of babbling about how these people are idiots. I won't deny that some people may be misguided, unknowledgable, and slightly ignorant to the fact of how to invoke real change in this world, but again at least they got the balls to do something more than just moan and groan. something needs to be done and someone needed to stand up and bring it to awareness that SHTF in 2008 and if we don't change the direction of this country we will fall the way of rome.

To tell you the truth, I have no idea if the Occupy protests will survive winter. I hope it does. But I'll tell you this. I'm positive the Occupy movement has brought certain things to light for people who never thought they were being screwed. Most people will not go looking for wrong doings by the government....ignorance is bliss. But the Occupy movement has brought this issue of corruption to the media and that, I'm sure, had an effect on those who saw the cops beat peaceful protesters and send a vet to the hospital with a fractured skull. That is what the occupy movement is all about...awareness. Even though some don't agree with it, in the long run I believe it will have a positive effect on how the world is ran.....if we don't destroy ourselves first.

reply to post by stuncrazy


Really? How misguided you are! Just because they clock in doesn't mean they are going to get paid for a full days work. If they can't do their job, they will get sent home. no pay for the hours not worked. Geez, what are you like 12 or something?

Originally posted by stuncrazy
reply to post by haarvik

 

how misguided you seem to be. guess what if someone goes to work clocks in and can't do their work it's not the workers fault. the worker is not the one that loses money. your argument is invalid, only because you seem to not understand how a job works.

If the port shuts down and sends workers home, they don't get paid.

If the port shuts down and the truckers can't deliver or pick up their loads, they don't get paid.


Please don't tell me you think these workers get paid regardless if they work or not.