Originally posted by batgirl
Hell, I'm not even on the left/right/independant paradigm anymore.
Neither am I, although probably not in the same way you are absent from it. Traditionally, "left" is socialism, communism, marxism, etc, and "right"
leans towards fascism, corporatism, etc. I see both of those as collectivist at heart, and leading to totalitarianism. Neither the "left" nor the
"right" are advocating for liberty - they only advocate for different control measures.
"Different" control measures means the control measures are still there, whichever way you fly. The only difference in either side , relatively, is
within that side. It's a matter of how many
control measures are in place. It's only a matter of quantity, not quality. That is the only
difference in the various left and right "isms". They are ALL collectivist and draconian.
I see no material difference between communism and fascism, and it amuses me how people will argue the "differences" between the two all day long. A
totalitarian master is a totalitarian master to me, and it doesn't make any difference at all which sort is at the top of the heap - they will BOTH
exert undue control over the populace, and BOTH claim they are "for the people" when in reality they are fleecing the people FOR themselves.
Its us versus the elite/illuminati/NWO/Zionist billionare banking cartel.
No, it's YOU against them, if you chose to limit your opposition to just them. I'm not in that "us", because I don't limit my opposition to just
those. Totalitarians are totalitarians, and I care not what their bank account looks like, nor what "ism" they are promoting. The only "isms" that
matter to me are individualism and totalitarianism, which are in opposition to one another. Totalitarianism covers both the traditional "left" and the
They are the same. Masters are masters, whatever other label one wants to apply to them.
The head of the snake. The shadow figures at the top. The ones pulling the strings. The chess players. If they are not brought down then everything
else is useless. It's probably gonna be the regular folk that are gonna get bloodied all fighting each other while the ones at the top will be where
they have always been, at the top of the pyramid, safely tucked away.
That's true. OWS is no different, and has it's very own puppet masters. The goal of OWS is to use the proletariat to promote the agendas of those
puppet masters over the agendas of the opposition puppet masters in the great game of chess being played out.
Then, they promptly get back to the business of eating the proletariat, same as the corporate puppet masters do.
edit on 2011/12/14 by nenothtu because: (no reason given)