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Originally posted by psyop911
reply to post by decepticonLaura
oh, sorry, hello kitty. you don't want someone on teh interwebs calling you "stupid"
because that might hurt your feelings, right? seriously? lol. that's just way too funny.
anywho. if you've been sleeping under the rock for the past year, maybe it's
tiem for you to wake up, skippy. read my post again. and again. and again.
maybe, but just maybe, you'll get it. and maybe you won't. either way,
ask yourself. where were all those "intellectuals" and those ows drones
on the 10th anniversary of 9/11.
Originally posted by AnotherSon
On the surface the "Occupy" movement is about the ills of Wall Street and our banking system. At the core is the Spirit of a movement that is grasping at what "post-civilization" means. Fortunate for us the movement is not rooted in an ideology of force. Force against the establishment begats force. Now Power vs Force brings down empires and monolithic thinking as seen with such people as Gandhi, MLK and Jesus of Nazareth if he did indeed exist. The Occupy movement does not see a "Mad Max" apocalyptic post civilization in which case you should be happy. Those seeing only with the monolithic monocle of the current system see the failure of civilization being "nasty, brutish and short." The Occupy movement sees nothing less than the potential for the evolution of Humanity outside of Darwinism. The potential to rise above biology has yet to Truly be explored by our species. NOT a political movement! Post-politics, post-economics, post-society; that which transcends monolithic schools of thought. We can sit back and drink our name brand coffee in the morning, continue doing our 40 hours a week, drinking in the media that has ended and chastising people fed up and no longer willing to play the "game" or we can seize this moment and evolve beyond it. All is yet to be determined by non-other than YOU. Self determination is scary and it is easier to criticize change than "be the change you want to see in the world." I encourage you to stop acting like hall room monitors and Hitlers Junge for the system and rise above this failed system. Start visualizing if not Creating post-civilization Now which can rise above the bull sh@# SHTF scenarios so frequently spelled out on ATS.
Originally posted by batgirl
Americans are so polarized between the left-right paradigm it's almost scary. It's so extremist. There will never be one cohesive voice for the 99% in America because you are either on one side or the other. Both sides see the others as traitors. Most cannot fathom seeing things as being a con on all sides that is meant to turn us all against eachother. I see this in my family where there is a left-wing authoritarian, someone who is to the right, a left-wing libertarian and someone who has opted out of all of it. It makes for some raucous arguments but their are some points of agreement. We all think we are screwed and that the country and world is going to # and we all are gonna be taken down with it. The left-wing anti-authoritarian believes education is the way to go. And the public at large is becoming quite educated as time goes on. It always starts with education and that is important. The authoritarian of the family thinks we all have to arm ourselves and fight and education campaigns are useless because it's gone beyond that. Both are right, we need to educate ourselves and be prepared to protect ourselves as well.
The ones in the family who don't really want to hear about it at all are just plain frightened. They know the state of affairs, they just don't know how to deal with it.
As long as one side sees the other sides as scum there will be no one cohesive voice, and maybe there isn't meant to be one cohesive voice. How can there be? We are a mass of conflicting personalities, Perhaps we just need to stay true to our own voice and play our own parts in this massive chess game.The non-violent educators will continue to educate. When it turns violent, the armed and trained survivalists will come into play. The people who don't want to deal with this terrible reality will be shocked out of thier denial.
The pro lets have a small government don't seem to want to see that having a small government will hurt millions of people. But then, it's true that the government is corrupt too the core. As if the privately run corporations and marketplace is not corrupt. Socialism and capitalism feed off eachother. Wasn't it the capitalist bankers who funded the Bolshevik Revolution. Capitalism and the private enterprise system is corrupt, corporations are corrupt, the goverment is corrupt. And the NWO elite are in control of every one of those systems. The system will become one. The worst of socialism and the worst of capitalism all rolled into one brutal force.
The New World Order.
And we will all play are parts in the play.
Originally posted by Domo1
reply to post by PapaKrok
TOTALLY! Because someone had the balls to march and protest in the 50s and 60s....or did you forget that part?
Well it's been awhile since I've read about it but did they ensconce themselves in public areas for months, dirtying the parks and generally being an expensive pain in the butt? I would be less irritated with OWS if the people would take the weekends off at the least. Let the parks get cleaned up without requiring police action, maybe share the space with people who just want to walk the dog.
Originally posted by OUTofSTEPwithTHEworld
So a few posts I read saying that the movement should of done this, should of done that....
Meibe you should of gotten off ATS, gone to an occupy site, share your opinions to help this movement be a better movement for the convinience of all.edit on 12-12-2011 by OUTofSTEPwithTHEworld because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by nenothtu
Originally posted by GardenerOfEden
The whole point for those demanding change is getting right in the face of the power holders and not leaving until change is made.
Maybe OWS should try that?
Lord know that what they've been doing - squatting in parks and venting a non-specific, omnidirectional, unfocused dissatisfaction while annoying everyone EXCEPT the Power Holders hasn't been working for them.
I'm guessing that was a large part in how they got marginalized in the first place. Annoy people long enough and they will either turn on you or ignore you. In this case they marginalized OWS.
Maybe it would help if they left Wall Street long enough to visit Fifth Avenue and hire a Corporate PR firm to work alongside the banks and lawyers they've hired while working "outside the system"?
edit on 2011/12/12 by nenothtu because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Screwed
Defenders of the Matrix never cease to amaze me.
Anyone challenging the status quoe is such a threat to you people.
The answer may surprise you.