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so, you speak way too soon.....and certainly on the wrong site.....don't you want to post this on foxnews or something?
Originally posted by Domo1
reply to post by pointr97
If it was legal, why did they get kicked out and arrested? Oh wait because you can't allow a rag tag group of losers with no defined goal steal the right of everyone else to visit the same park.
Human detritus? What the ****? Unless you happen to be rich, these are people like you and me. They are workers, they are students, a lot of them were freaking 9/11 workers - some of them national heroes, and you're calling them human detritus.
"Although I agree with some of the ideas put forth by OWS, their behavior and my personal subjective views on morals impede my critical thought process." This is all that's behind this thread.
Soooo, when you see PETA, LGBT protests, Tea Party, Gun Rights Activists, Oath Keepers, Ron Paul people protesting you are seeing us in the masses at those events supporting people against a tyrannical government. When you see the “rioting”, those are the anarchist work groups just doing their best to draw attention away from the “real work” of consensus-community building.
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by PapaKrok
I disagree with you. It is that very refusal to work within a broken, rigged paradigm that lends them relevancy.
So if you don't want to work within the system...and you want change...to me that means you want to overthrow the system. Is that correct?
If so, what system do you want to replace the current one with?
That is what makes them so damn dangerous and a major concern to TPTB. Any group working within the paradigm is manageable and co-optable. Any group with established leadership is co-optable. Any group with a unified agenda is co-optable. Occupy is not.
Any group that is so willing to stay out of the system is of no concern. You are still subject to the laws...what do politicians care if you don't want to attempt to change them within the system.
No one is going to listen to you...because you are NOT a threat to anyone. You pose no danger of voting anyone out, you pose no danger of getting any of your ideas into congress...OWS is irrelevant. It is to be used as a talking point...and that is being done right now. You may not "participate" directly in the "right/left paradigm"...but they are using you like pawns. And the best thing is they don't even have to be concerned about pleasing you...they just use you.
You can lie to yourself all you want...to date, nothing has changed...nothing has talked about being changed...and outside your "general assemblies"...no one cares.
You say OWS can't be co-opted...that is so funny. IF someone wanted to co-opt OWS...you guys provide the very means to do so by your "consensus" process. I simply have to get more people that agree with me rather than OWS and march them all down to OWS. If OWS had any influence, somoene would of already done this...but since they don't...NO ONE CARES.