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Is Anyone Still Taking OWS Seriously?

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posted on Dec, 12 2011 @ 04:00 PM
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I look at it like this..

If OWS was a failure, then that means protesting in general will not help anything.

Seems like the only way is a central war where the people take back the government by force, if at all possible depending on the military decision. If this ever comes to fruition, then this will be the time the government shows it's true face to the world.




posted on Dec, 12 2011 @ 04:04 PM
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I liked how you started that post but I'm going to have to call you out on this nonsense:




so, you speak way too soon.....and certainly on the wrong site.....don't you want to post this on foxnews or something?


I don't think you know me well enough to make remarks like that. I'm not a fan of Fox news and I think you are attempting to paint me as a Republican. Also, how am I posting this on the wrong site? Because the majority here on ATS may disagree with me? It's a discussion board, not a board for everyone to agree. If everyone here always had the same opinion it would be awfully boring. If anything you should thank me for being honest and not caving into ATS peer pressure.



posted on Dec, 12 2011 @ 04:05 PM
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This is still on the table but is not on the docket for now but is a backburner item. We are seeing if this strategy works before that is even considered!



posted on Dec, 12 2011 @ 04:06 PM
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Originally posted by Domo1
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If it was legal, why did they get kicked out and arrested? Oh wait because you can't allow a rag tag group of losers with no defined goal steal the right of everyone else to visit the same park.


umm, no. hitler's genocide was "legal" but it was stopped. "legal" and "illegal" just designate what is most beneficial for the corrupt politicians in office.



posted on Dec, 12 2011 @ 04:07 PM
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Human detritus? What the ****? Unless you happen to be rich, these are people like you and me. They are workers, they are students, a lot of them were freaking 9/11 workers - some of them national heroes, and you're calling them human detritus.


Nope. I'm calling the bad apples human detritus. The ones that fornicate in public, do drugs in public, and poop in public. I'm not even saying that's the majority. Note in the same the same post you quoted from I give the movement credit for something... You didn't comment on that though because you wanted to get mad.



posted on Dec, 12 2011 @ 04:09 PM
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Man I would love to see one thread where someone doesn't bring up Hitler. He wasn't the only bad guy in history. Legal and illegal do much more than what you have stated.



posted on Dec, 12 2011 @ 04:11 PM
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"Although I agree with some of the ideas put forth by OWS, their behavior and my personal subjective views on morals impede my critical thought process." This is all that's behind this thread.


I don't think you read the OP then. The whole point of this thread was to ask if people felt the movement was powering down. I don't know if I would say my moral views impede my thought process. That's rather rude and suggests my morals are faulty. Ouch, my feelings.



posted on Dec, 12 2011 @ 04:11 PM
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I hope it's not dead as they are the only people actually doing anything at all. Everyone else just continues to live their life or post things on the internet like "this has got to stop!" yet they do nothing to stop it.

They didn't lack a point or message. How stupid are people that they can't get it? Why is it that months later do people still say "they have no message". Of course there is no one singular message - there is no one singular problem. The point is to occupy the public space. To exercise the right to assemble. The point is people coming together and saying EVERYTHING is corrupt and the people are no longer being heard or represented and it needs to change.

For a conspiracy site there sure are a lot of people here who drink the mainstream media kool-aid.



posted on Dec, 12 2011 @ 04:14 PM
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I find it quite ironic that he makes this thread on the morning of what might be one of the biggest endeavors undertaken by OWS, ever.


There is some real irony there.



posted on Dec, 12 2011 @ 04:19 PM
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That was a very good post and you are the reason I give the group any accolades.




Soooo, when you see PETA, LGBT protests, Tea Party, Gun Rights Activists, Oath Keepers, Ron Paul people protesting you are seeing us in the masses at those events supporting people against a tyrannical government. When you see the “rioting”, those are the anarchist work groups just doing their best to draw attention away from the “real work” of consensus-community building.


I like that. I am also impressed that the group has been so non violent for the most part.



posted on Dec, 12 2011 @ 04:21 PM
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except you know... the Rapes, murders, gun caches normal non-violent stuff



posted on Dec, 12 2011 @ 04:24 PM
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I wasn't aware of any murders or gun caches. Not surprised about the rapes honestly. For the number of people involved I still think the movement has remained pretty damn peaceful.



posted on Dec, 12 2011 @ 04:34 PM
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Anyone who expected immediate results is completely foolish. It's still too soon to expect results. Was OWS a failure? Absolutely not. Did it lack a main theme/message? Not really. Did it lack leadership? I guess, but who was in charge of the 60s hippy movement? Rock N Roll bands? The fact that OWS spread from NY to Cali, and around the world says it was a success.

Did you really expect any Govt/Bankers/CEOs bow down to lowly protesters?
if anyone did. It's clear major white collar crime not only go unpunished but unnoticed.

What OWS did is to help raise awareness, & continues to do.



posted on Dec, 12 2011 @ 04:34 PM
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I was smart enough from the start to not take them seriously... they are clueless and have no true goals other than protest anything their self entitled minds can think of.

Useful Idiots to the NWO is what they are



posted on Dec, 12 2011 @ 04:37 PM
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posted on Dec, 12 2011 @ 04:52 PM
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Educate yourself with the following please before you dare again say no goals and no demands and do grant you consent to email these to whoever you want to :

Declaration Of The General Assembly of #OWS :
www.abovetopsecret.com...

and
THE OFFICIAL STANCE OF THE #OOCUPYEVERYTHING - OCCUPY TOGETHER - #OCCUPYWALLSTREET MOVEMENTS AND ALL ASSOCIATED MARCHES & OCCUPATIONS THROUGHOUT THE PLANET CURRENTLY :
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Everything you could possibly want to learn about our demands, goals and stances is clearly defined in both!
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posted on Dec, 12 2011 @ 04:59 PM
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Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by PapaKrok
 



I disagree with you. It is that very refusal to work within a broken, rigged paradigm that lends them relevancy.


So if you don't want to work within the system...and you want change...to me that means you want to overthrow the system. Is that correct?

If so, what system do you want to replace the current one with?


That is what makes them so damn dangerous and a major concern to TPTB. Any group working within the paradigm is manageable and co-optable. Any group with established leadership is co-optable. Any group with a unified agenda is co-optable. Occupy is not.


Any group that is so willing to stay out of the system is of no concern. You are still subject to the laws...what do politicians care if you don't want to attempt to change them within the system.

No one is going to listen to you...because you are NOT a threat to anyone. You pose no danger of voting anyone out, you pose no danger of getting any of your ideas into congress...OWS is irrelevant. It is to be used as a talking point...and that is being done right now. You may not "participate" directly in the "right/left paradigm"...but they are using you like pawns. And the best thing is they don't even have to be concerned about pleasing you...they just use you.


You can lie to yourself all you want...to date, nothing has changed...nothing has talked about being changed...and outside your "general assemblies"...no one cares.

You say OWS can't be co-opted...that is so funny. IF someone wanted to co-opt OWS...you guys provide the very means to do so by your "consensus" process. I simply have to get more people that agree with me rather than OWS and march them all down to OWS. If OWS had any influence, somoene would of already done this...but since they don't...NO ONE CARES.


Again, I disagree. You should go out and see for yourself. The movement is garnishing a suprising amount of support from communities and individuals that previously thought like you do. It is, like it or not, the future of this country after the spring crash as it represents the only existing paradigm that cuts across the false right-left paradigm and its compartmentalized thinking. It will be impossible to ignore the structure at that point as it will represent the only viable social matrix within many previous states / communities. We are prepping for the inevitable chaos. We didn't break things, remember that. We are just gonna put things back together after TSHTF in about 90 days or so...

On second thought, maybe you should just assume that the movement is dead and stay home till Netflicks craps out...
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posted on Dec, 12 2011 @ 05:02 PM
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Near me, the occupy movement is mostly empty tents.

Setting up a tent in a public area may be a way to get noticed.

However, empty tents to me means the occupy movement is losing energy fast.



posted on Dec, 12 2011 @ 05:04 PM
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reply to post by Wildbob77
 


Go onto the property and you will see that there are people in them, not just casual observation from the street!



posted on Dec, 12 2011 @ 05:09 PM
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I walk through the site almost daily. It went from being very active to where it is now...the dull drums.

Some of the tents are open and empty. There is nothing in them, no people, no stuff, they are just empty.

Thus my opinion.



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