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The USA today , the USSA tomorrow

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posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 02:59 PM
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I think you know it yourselves.

This is how far the US govt will go after ten years. As the NWO tells it where to go and what to bring , US will just obey and people at least matter.

I have been more familiar after I entered ATS and I learned that there are some warmongers and some liberators who will not stop liberating people in mid east.

So , as I was reading news in usatoday , I noticed this picture :



As I have underlined , you see names of some countries added on the left. Then I remembered these countries are just new piece of the NWO plan.

I think this will be how the news will look after ten years :



Unless you people stop it from happening. I think it is your duty to change this conditions and no one else's duty. Put some thing between the gears of war-machine and we all will live in peace.




posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 03:41 PM
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I understand your thinking, but perhaps you have never been to America. You live in Iran, correct?

Here in America, people think really crazy. When I go to work, there's this guy in another cubicle that I can't see that boasts about a "glass parking lot" whenever he gets the opportunity. They'll say they love the people of Country X, but they just don't like their government. Thats because that is what it says on the local news. It says that whoever our allies at the moment are the "good guys" and whoever are not our allies at the moment should be bombed with pre-emptive strikes.

People here aren't very smart. It was easy for me to make "Salutatorian" in high school with very little effort (it was really "Valedictorian", but I'm a black American so teachers took points off of my grades for that. Only the white chic could get number 1). Here in America, they just know that they don't like "black people", but as long as they don't say anything then their not racist. This gets reflected in our foreign policy. We just make anything up.

A walk down the street in my city (its a large city with 50% black and 50% other), as I look into the restaurants and see people having a good time, they're all white and non-black. As I walk down the street and see endless couples holding hands and talking, they're all white and non-black. I could try to do what they're doing, but if I tried going into the restaurant, they'd refuse service and have the cops escort me out. The last time I tried it, their reason was that I couldn't dine alone, that I had to have someone to dine with. But I'm a black American, and no one can stand me for too long. I saw a white couple window shopping at the mall while most of the stores where closed, but when I tried it the cops forced me out at gun point. If tried to get a female to join me for dinner, they'd refuse and there could easily be consequences.

They absolutely LUV Iranians here in America. They'll tell you that they like the Iranian people, but not their government. Your next step would be to say that you don't like the Iranian government, as you can't argue with them. But the rewards of agreeing are priceless, as you are not a black American, so you could have anything you wanted after that.

Besides all that, there's a more important reason why people in America think the way they do, but it's not something you can talk about so we can't discuss it here. It's a very important detail, but once anyone notices and says anything they'd get labeled a nutcase and locked up in a mental institution until they said otherwise. Yeah, you can't even mention that one on a conspiracy site. It's simply the part that you're not supposed to know.

So, what I am telling you is that: "Yeah, the USA is on a path to self destruction". But what I want to also tell you is that it is outside of their control and that there is nothing anyone can do about it. Marching doesn't do anything, as they just taser and tear gas you. Sending letters to your "congressman" doesn't do anything as they'll never read it. We're not in control of what happens next, our supreme alien overlords are, MuawahahaHar!

Sorry, man.



posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 03:47 PM
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Come and visit America first before you start spouting off.

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The reason you see all these white people doing such fun things and you are not is because you consider them enemies, they know it and won't include you. You think America is so bad, go live in Africa, your wonderful world of everything black.
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posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 03:53 PM
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Yup.




posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 04:16 PM
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Why the NWO? I mean, if you were going to attach a name to cover all of international and internal American politics, why not something more believable and .. I don't know.. real?

Like "Globalist plan"

Or "The bankers will direct the US to do....."

Or "Oil companies and international globalist leaders are moving the World towards..."

Or "Progressives and bankers unite to destroy X country today..."

Saying it's the NWO is saying you don't understand the fundamentals of what moves Western society to do what it does. It has nothing to do with a global cabal of World dominating villains hell bent on ruling the World for the sake of ruling the World.

It has to do with Progressives who don't believe in national identity. It has to do with Globalist who would see World borders dissolve for the sake of free trade and slave labor. It has to do with Corporations funding World governments to push their own agendas to increase the bottom line. It has to do with Bankers securing their place in the World through discrete manipulation of every aspect of society in order to generate untamed incomes while being both policy setter and overseer of their own actions. Money. Power. That's the "NWO" for you.. same as the last World Order isn't it?



posted on Dec, 12 2011 @ 08:34 AM
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Thank you for sending the long reply to me.

I agree with lots of points you showed me.

I think racism is a disease that is much connected to our inner-self. I try not to be a racist , but daily I see bunch of people who are . Islam has learned me that race is not a good criterion to know and judge people superiority.

But also I see a lot of Muslims who are racist and they are pride to admit it.



A walk down the street in my city (its a large city with 50% black and 50% other), as I look into the restaurants and see people having a good time, they're all white and non-black. As I walk down the street and see endless couples holding hands and talking, they're all white and non-black. I could try to do what they're doing, but if I tried going into the restaurant, they'd refuse service and have the cops escort me out. The last time I tried it, their reason was that I couldn't dine alone, that I had to have someone to dine with. But I'm a black American, and no one can stand me for too long. I saw a white couple window shopping at the mall while most of the stores where closed, but when I tried it the cops forced me out at gun point. If tried to get a female to join me for dinner, they'd refuse and there could easily be consequences.

They absolutely LUV Iranians here in America. They'll tell you that they like the Iranian people, but not their government. Your next step would be to say that you don't like the Iranian government, as you can't argue with them. But the rewards of agreeing are priceless, as you are not a black American, so you could have anything you wanted after that.


Sometimes I think we are all living in a prison , but there are other things to let me get away from all these disturbing thoughts. I just hope you find peace.

+ remember how you are under influence of those people and you just want to do what they do. like going out for dinner , shopping or other stuff , then you will find out that you are just like them in thinking and wanting , but you are just black.

+ I don't consider all those stuff you want to do (like going out shopping or eating dinner in a restaurant) , to be a way to salvation. It is not a way to perfection.

Be aware that judging people like this :



People here aren't very smart


Is not going to show you are judging fairly. Then you will have the same disease like racists do.

You are judging people unfairly , too.



Besides all that, there's a more important reason why people in America think the way they do, but it's not something you can talk about so we can't discuss it here. It's a very important detail, but once anyone notices and says anything they'd get labeled a nutcase and locked up in a mental institution until they said otherwise. Yeah, you can't even mention that one on a conspiracy site. It's simply the part that you're not supposed to know.


I like to hear what you think and I don't fear other lunatics label me as lunatic. So tell me what you think.



posted on Dec, 12 2011 @ 08:44 AM
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Saying it's the NWO is saying you don't understand the fundamentals of what moves Western society to do what it does


Maybe you can tell me and I won't be anything but thankful.




It has to do with Progressives who don't believe in national identity. It has to do with Globalist who would see World borders dissolve for the sake of free trade and slave labor. It has to do with Corporations funding World governments to push their own agendas to increase the bottom line. It has to do with Bankers securing their place in the World through discrete manipulation of every aspect of society in order to generate untamed incomes while being both policy setter and overseer of their own actions. Money. Power.


Seems to me the ones who want to make a One World Government and this costs an order to get to it. I call it NWO , you call it Globalism . It doesn't change the facts. There are changes and betrayals , we see it , we agree that there is. I think the ones who are forcing nations to accept it are the ones who are doing it.



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 04:14 PM
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Originally posted by hmdphantom
Seems to me the ones who want to make a One World Government and this costs an order to get to it. I call it NWO , you call it Globalism . It doesn't change the facts. There are changes and betrayals , we see it , we agree that there is. I think the ones who are forcing nations to accept it are the ones who are doing it.


IMO a one world government is inevitable (the alt is to cease to exist), what people are fighting against is the method of instituting it.

It has to be voluntary, a slow process and a certain amount of sovereignty for how people want to live needs to be respected at the same time all people work together for a goal, despite their differences. This is what has been happening since the dawn of civilization, many people combining into larger and larger groups. Other options (which have been seemingly explored by the US gov AND OTHERS as well), include mass mind control and slavery, we do not want this.

Will one person control all or will all people move as one? People with power of course want to rule over all, the majority that makes up the foundation of any powerful person want all people to be equal.

In reality, all problems are rooted in the concept of money as a status symbol, people loose their principles in favor of niceties, in all nations of the world and all races. In order for all this # to stop we literally have to come up with a new system of accountability that does not require money or ties it to personal assets. Before you start shouting communism, realize that too relies on a monetary system.

The only reason we require money to moderate ourselves is because we are inherently dishonest, as a species. We needed selfishness to survive this world until now.

Sorry if this is slightly off-topic, though I think it is at least relevant.
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posted on Dec, 16 2011 @ 03:09 AM
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So, remind me of how the Russian people were able to stop the communist agenda there and the gulags? Remind me again how the people could rise up against KGB knocking on their door?



posted on Dec, 16 2011 @ 03:20 AM
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Originally posted by MegaCurious
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I understand your thinking, but perhaps you have n
A walk down the street in my city (its a large city with 50% black and 50% other), as I look into the restaurants and see people having a good time, they're all white and non-black. As I walk down the street and see endless couples holding hands and talking, they're all white and non-black. I could try to do what they're doing, but if I tried going into the restaurant, they'd refuse service and have the cops escort me out. The last time I tried it, their reason was that I couldn't dine alone, that I had to have someone to dine with. But I'm a black American, and no one can stand me for too long. I saw a white couple window shopping at the mall while most of the stores where closed, but when I tried it the cops forced me out at gun point. If tried to get a female to join me for dinner, they'd refuse and there could easily be consequences.




Do you uh...Do you own a time machine? Have you recently traveled here from ninety fifty seven or something?I'm kind of confused by your post.



posted on Dec, 16 2011 @ 06:04 AM
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Saying the word inevitable is just logic is going to fade to black.

I mean , you better come with the reason than saying it is inevitable.

I am eager to know about your reason.



It has to be voluntary, a slow process and a certain amount of sovereignty for how people want to live needs to be respected at the same time all people work together for a goal, despite their differences.


a goal ? what that could be ? I think that's the question. What people in a region , get to accept as their goal. People worldwide find different goals and different ways to reach it.

But the question is , what we choose and how to get it.

 


I think you made some questions for me , and I like new questions (about money). thank you.




The only reason we require money to moderate ourselves is because we are inherently dishonest, as a species. We needed selfishness to survive this world until now.


I think as an ideal , your idea is very worthy , but I think being honest or dishonest is an internal issue , people choose it inside their heart. We are choosing being , some people choose the good and some choose evil. Some people choose being animal , some people choose being human being (superior than animal).

So , I think there should be laws even after people get to know what is wrong and what is right for them. Because sometimes , despite we know wrong or right , we choose wrong and that is just our will.



Sorry if this is slightly off-topic, though I think it is at least relevant.


I think it is the most on-topic and I appreciate your reply.

 


I think I should clarify something about NWO.

It is very clear that NWO leaders don't really want any religion to exist. And they are hard trying to eliminate religions. But I think a true order will let all people worship their own god as long as it is not disturbing other people's right.



This is what we see in a clip from illuminati , 30 seconds to mars. Those three main religions are burning their holy books and they are uniting toward NWO. This will never happen. Mind control and other stuf are going to fail in near future and all people will know about it.

Peace.



posted on Dec, 16 2011 @ 06:05 AM
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I think those people were much oppressed than we are today and they were more ignorant than we are now.




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