13 deaths and thousands of amputees, huh? What about WWII, where we were losing hundreds each day? Libs cry bloody murder each time a troop is killed (They're actually celebrating, though.). Why? Because they want a negative atmosphere to surround Iraq.

Invading would bring about the apocalypse, but there were never any weapons. Iraq posed no threat, yet the war profoundly affected out national security. It was all about oil, yet the fields are dry. The Kurds are dirt-poor, yet they were never gassed or abused. Iran is a bigger threat than ever, but going after it is a bad idea. Syria might have WMDs, but they're not a threat. The war is wrong, yet we should pretend to be strong. We should be hardliners, but we should be more sensitive too. We've had 1,000 casualties (a small price to pay compared to other U.S. wars), which is so many that the U.S. is going to be depopulated. We're overcrowded, yet we have to act like every casualty is a nuclear strike. WMDs are bad, yet we should never depose a regime which owns them or uses them. The war would have been right if Europe had been involved, even though we would have gone to war for the same reasons. We should hand Iraq over to Europe, even though it opposed the war. There'll be another 9/11, yet we shouldn't do anything about it (more stuff to blame Bush for). Clinton, in eight years wasn't in any way responsible for our terrorism defenses, yet Bush in eight months destroyed NYC. 1,000 soldiers is too high a price to pay to save 3,000+ civilians. Bush is a moron, yet is surprisingly clever. You get the idea.


He who throws mud loses ground.

Diplomacy is the art of letting someone else get your way.

Originally posted by zcheng

Originally posted by keholmes

Originally posted by zcheng
US is building an Evil Empire through invasion and occupation. China is not.

That’s only because they are already done…..

It is work in progress at best. We will see US defeat in both Iraq and Afganistan within 5 years.

I’m sure with what passes for journalism in your country you will, of that I’m sure.

Originally posted by Munro_DreadGod
???? War....where.....as the PLA would say just a civil disturbance which will be contained in due course

no munro they would say that they liberated the populace and the fighting was with slave traders and they are now in the midst of doubling the population….isn’t that the right propaganda cheng.

too much party line from Z.

Or is it just lost in translation?

But Im thinking if kerry gets in the answer to this thread will become yes and damn quick.

Nooooo....keep 'em there! The world needs more amputees.

(Plus having no military personnel in the US will add to the drama when we're hit again at home, doncha think?? It'll be fun to see local cops and firemen trying to save lives, ID corpses AND distribute supplies to the masses).

Originally posted by bushblows
Nooooo....keep 'em there! The world needs more amputees.

(Plus having no military personnel in the US will add to the drama when we're hit again at home, doncha think?? It'll be fun to see local cops and firemen trying to save lives, ID corpses AND distribute supplies to the masses).

The highest form of wit and still the best

Been a while think it is now time for UK troops and US troops to leave. As soon as the elections are finished. Don't see the point in them staying anymore.

But nothing has changed LOL

More threads on the subject, but bottom line is we are still their and its getting expensive, mostly in US blood but the brits have been losing soldiers too.

You would think they would have run out of explosives by now, who is supplying them? MMMMM Hard one.

Originally posted by Munro_DreadGod
Will it leave a vacuum for the radicals and extremists to take over an make another afghanistan or greater Iran.

Im in favour of them staying but would like to hear other views on the matter. cheers

Yes they should. They don't have a right to be there in the first place. If you ask me the soldiers are mind controlled....and they will not be withdrawing the troops...what the president wants, the president gets...