The Abomination of Desolation enacted?, page 2
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reply posted on 12-12-2011 @ 08:24 PM by defcon5
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As I mentioned above not everything mentioned in that list stated by Christ had to be fulfilled in 70 ad, because they asked him more then one question combined together. Some of it relates to 70ad, and some of it relates to the return of Christ.

Personally, I don't buy the whole “Israel Rebirth” in the 1940's as even being mentioned in the Bible. It's very loosely based on the remark about the fig tree, and could simply be nothing more then self fulfilling prophecy. The entire time line of Futurist interpretation is based on Jesuit Counter Reformation Propaganda that the RCC came up with to hide their position in prophecy as was being pointed out by the protestant reformers of the day. It certainly was in Rome and others est interest to ensure the rebirth of Israel to show their version of prophecy was coming true.

If you want to know where the whole concept of Futurism (a future 7 year tribulation, a future antichrist, etc) came from, read about Jesuit Theologian Franciso Ribeera.


reply posted on 13-12-2011 @ 08:10 PM by eeks4
Originally posted by defcon5
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post by ntech



As I mentioned above not everything mentioned in that list stated by Christ had to be fulfilled in 70 ad, because they asked him more then one question combined together. Some of it relates to 70ad, and some of it relates to the return of Christ.

Personally, I don't buy the whole “Israel Rebirth” in the 1940's as even being mentioned in the Bible. It's very loosely based on the remark about the fig tree, and could simply be nothing more then self fulfilling prophecy. The entire time line of Futurist interpretation is based on Jesuit Counter Reformation Propaganda that the RCC came up with to hide their position in prophecy as was being pointed out by the protestant reformers of the day. It certainly was in Rome and others est interest to ensure the rebirth of Israel to show their version of prophecy was coming true.

If you want to know where the whole concept of Futurism (a future 7 year tribulation, a future antichrist, etc) came from, read about Jesuit Theologian Franciso Ribeera.
i believe time is repeating its self


reply posted on 13-12-2011 @ 08:21 PM by theRhenn
Originally posted by defcon5
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post by ntech



As I mentioned above not everything mentioned in that list stated by Christ had to be fulfilled in 70 ad, because they asked him more then one question combined together. Some of it relates to 70ad, and some of it relates to the return of Christ.

Personally, I don't buy the whole “Israel Rebirth” in the 1940's as even being mentioned in the Bible. It's very loosely based on the remark about the fig tree, and could simply be nothing more then self fulfilling prophecy. The entire time line of Futurist interpretation is based on Jesuit Counter Reformation Propaganda that the RCC came up with to hide their position in prophecy as was being pointed out by the protestant reformers of the day. It certainly was in Rome and others est interest to ensure the rebirth of Israel to show their version of prophecy was coming true.

If you want to know where the whole concept of Futurism (a future 7 year tribulation, a future antichrist, etc) came from, read about Jesuit Theologian Franciso Ribeera.


Im with you on the rebirth of Israel. I'm not really sure if it has anything to do with it. But then I also see how man putting the Jews back in Israel even counts.... It's not "really" a country. It's a warzone since... well, forever. I dont think Isreal has been a real country since King David and Solomon.

But I also noticed that when Christ said "then the end will come".. Is it possible he meant something along the lines of what is supposed to happen in the end ... end?

Enemies vanquished, new heaven and earth, total peace, then after all is achieved, then the end will come as in ??? I dunno. Maybe thats the time for the new heaven and earth? Or is that perhaps after, as in the final end. Doesnt all things pass away at some point except that which is eternal? All but God? All?

Maybe reading into those two paraphrases too much but I often wonder if we're not reading into it enough. Think about it, how often do we confuse one anothers words for hatred or sarcasm? I would think the same could be done there. Anything can be taken out of context.
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