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Permits Honored in Other States Permit holders should know that while they can legally carry a concealed handgun while visiting these states, they’re subject to that state’s laws state and are responsible for learning about those laws. States with North Carolina Agreements Alabama Kentucky Oklahoma Alaska Louisiana Pennsylvania Arizona Michigan South Carolina Arkansas Mississippi South Dakota Colorado Missouri Tennessee Delaware Montana Texas Florida Nebraska Utah Georgia Nevada Virginia Idaho New Hampshire (resident permits only) Washington Indiana New Mexico West Virginia Iowa North Dakota Wisconsin Kansas Ohio Wyoming
LEGAL ISSUES RELATING TO CONCEALED CARRY HANDGUN G.S. 14-51.1 – Intruder Law has been repealed effective December 1, 2011. Information regarding this law also previously referred to as the “Castle Doctrine” is discussed in the current training videos. That information will be incorrect effective December 1, 2011. G.S. 14-51.2 – Home, workplace and motor vehicle protection; presumption of fear of death or, serious bodily harm. [Enacted into law effective December 1, 2011].
G.S. 14-51.3 - Use of force in defense of person: relief of criminal and civil liability.
c1) Any person who has a concealed handgun permit may carry a concealed handgun on the grounds or waters of a park within the State Parks System as defined in G.S. 113-44.9. (c2) It shall be unlawful for a person, with or without a permit to carry a concealed handgun while consuming alcohol or at any time while the person has remaining in the person’s body any alcohol or in the person’s blood a controlled substance previously consumed, but a person does not violate this condition if a controlled substance in the person’s blood was lawfully obtained and taken in therapeutically appropriate amounts or if the person is on the person’s own property. (c3) As provided in G.S. 14-269.4(5), it shall be lawful for a person to carry any firearm openly, or to carry a concealed handgun with a concealed carry permit at any State-owned rest area, at any State–owned rest stop along the highways, and at any State-owned hunting and fishing reservation. 5 G.S. 14-415.23 - Statewide Uniformity.
Originally posted by theRhenn
This is definatly a win.
Though, what bothers me is this: How many young, immature adults will go out and get a permit for the WRONG reasons.
The good should not suffer for the bad, as every single american has the right. What scares me is the ignorant american that thinks.. "Wow, I can carry a gun anywhere now! I'm going to get a permit" and a week later, Johny is cuffed and placed in the back seat of a squad car because he brought his 357 into a club, got a lil tostey and wipped it out on some guy that was flirting with Johny's girlfriend... Words went to blows, Johny was getting butt hammered so he wips out his trusty 357 and points it at the guy. The guy starts screaming at Johny... "What, you gonna shoot me??? Do it punk! You puss! You aint got the guts!...." BLOOOOOOOOW!
9 inches of flame comes out the front of Johny's handgun... The mouthy touchy feely guy fly's back and slams into the ground... motionless.. lifeless...
Then.. There is Jimmy who wants to show his new gun and permit to his friends... Gets a lil cocky, shows off, and accedently shoots his girlfriend in the head. She ends up in a hospital, in a vegitative state the rest of her days.
Sorry.. These are just things I see playing in my head when I hear about permits.
wait wait wait... I'm ALL FOR carrying a firearm ANYWHERE for protection, hunting, or whatever you damn well feel like.. What I am not for are idiots carrying the same. That scares the crap out of me. Look around at the common street thug today..
What color is he?
- All colors
What music does he listen to?
- All music
What hood is he from?
- Take your pick.. Not just hoods either. He could live in the burbs all the same.
What is his motivation?
- same as you and me, just misguided
What is his....
- wait.. it could be a she, just the same...
Imagine one day you're walking to your car and you see a few young adults, say about 21-23ish. One has a shoulder holster on, obviously giving the idea that he's carrying a handgun and has a permit. Standing around him are two of his friends flipping this gun over and over in their hands, laughing, pointing it at the sky, birds, cars, pretending to shoot at distant passerby's (by the way, simply brandishing a firearm to someone will land you in jail!! Dont do this!).... And you, just getting to your car, your 2 year old at your side, you fumble for your keys as you see this taking place meer feet from you....
What are you thinking? What are you worried about? Does your 2 year old come to mind? Does the idea that any of these guys are just a lil too immature to be playing with a handgun? There are inthralled over it, are they not? That tells me... Get in the car as soon as possible, call the police because one of these careless kids are going to put a hole of death into someone before too much longer and explain to them that you're not calling to report anything like a murder, you are just concern and would like an officer to speak with those young adults if available. Then I would get the hell out of there and warn people if I could.
Still I believe in our rights to carry and I will fight for it till my last breath, should anyone demand otherwise of me.
Originally posted by Starwise
WOW, it sounds like you have some anxiety about this.
Lets talk about this: To get your conceal and carry, there are many many hoops to jump through.
The classes for permits test you on your knowledge of all LAWS & SAFETY
Carrying concealed is a huge RESPONSIBILITY
If you are caught with a firearm in concealment while under the influence of Alcohol, your are immediately revoked!
IF YOU ARE THE INSTIGATOR: Common law does not apply, you shoot somebody and you go to jail for attempted murder or murder.
Carrying concealed is not a game and I am pretty sure those who obtain them are in their right minds for such situations.
My instructor yesterday stated that there has only been ONE INCIDENT this past few year with a concealer. IT WAS JUSTIFIABLE SELF DEFENSE. CASE CLOSED.
IF YOU USE EXCESSIVE FORCE: Your done for period....
IF A THUG wants to get a gun HE CAN! HE will carry it against the law. The law abiding citizens who get their permit to conceal and carry are the least of your worries.
Conceal and carry is not the same as just being able to buy a gun. Nearly any of the scenarios you wrote can occur by anyone who owns a gun....There is a difference. ANYONE CAN BUY A GUN, with exceptions, example those with a felony.
Originally posted by Skewed
reply to post by theRhenn
The intent is hopefully the instructor will see these sorts of individuals and will not grant them their license.
Tell you what, why don't you contact a local instructor and voice your fears to him/her. Then ask if you could come sit in on his class. Since you will not be seeking a license in return and was just wanting the education, if it were me I would not charge you. The information given out should be known to all.
Originally posted by tjack
reply to post by theRhenn
Vivid imagination, no doubt fueled by Hollywood and uber-liberal depictions of people who carry or are pro-gun. The reality is far from the fantasy, however, as people who seek carry permits generally trend to the more "level headed" types. Also, the actions you describe are all illegal pretty much everywhere in the US, and that type of idiot behavior will most often get reported and acted upon.
Sounds like you got your head on straight though, I liked reading your post. Check out some of the defensive carry forums on the net, just browse around and read the posts.You'll quickly find the type of behavior you describe is also severely frowned upon from within the carry community as well.
Originally posted by Starwise
I was told that this law was snuck into the Credit Protection Act that was recently passed..lol
I'm so excited! What a huge win!