Sometimes the proof is right in front of us. Confessions from a chemtrail moron.

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posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 02:37 PM
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posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 02:44 PM
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The article talks of cloud seeding, an entirely different thing where small aircraft pass over existing cumulous clouds seedi g them to make rain after only a few minutes. This leaves no visible trail of any kind. The article itself is wrongly illustrated with a 747 water bomber, which has the same role as the DC-4 illustrated in this thread, but for people with more money
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posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 02:49 PM
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Originally posted by User8911
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Lucky you, you're on your way to get free stars from liars.


If you are going to accuse someone of being a liar you should really back it up with some evidence.

Since you say the proof is on ATS it should be easy enough to find with a few minutes searching.

I look forward to your justification.....
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posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 02:51 PM
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Originally posted by timidgal
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Incredibly cool thread, webpirate, and those pixs are great. I've been the laughing stock of my family about chemtrails for years but even they are starting to come around to the fact that all those "trails" in the sky can't possibly be from commercial planes (especially when you can watch the spray being dispersed without seeing the actual plane).

Personally, I think they probably use it for a myriad of purposes. It probably started out as an experiment in weather modification. I remember about six or seven years ago, there was a day in early October that started out with typical blue skies and by mid-day, the skies were gray and criss-crossed with chemtrails. The very next day, we had these mutant snowflakes in NYC (for lack of a better description) that I have never before nor ever since seen again. They lasted a short time but man, we're they a strangely beautiful sight. Of course there's a chance that it was just coincidence but even my skeptical family's shell started to crack over that one.

I also believe that the poster's theory about protection from the heat of the sun, which has weakened as our natural protections have eroded, is valid. I've come to believe this because of the worldwide reports of vitamin D deficiency that's been prevalent over the last year or two. I realize that our lifestyles have changed and perhaps our youth don't spend as much time outdoors as my generation did, but there is still such an epidemic of vitamin D deficiency, you have to put 2 and 2 together and realize that those beneficial sun rays are somehow being blocked (strangely enough, those same "healthy" sun rays that give us our vitamin D are the same ones that seem to cause sun cancer and other sun-exposure related illnesses).

Anyway, great visual proof. Thanks for sharing.
has any one heard the blocking out nibiru theory i swear i saw the second sun last year at the same time three planes were spraying in a criss cross pattern right in front of it. it was in the evening as the sun was setting. im in georgia



posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 02:55 PM
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Yep - the blocking view of nibiru theory is known - I've mentioned it occasionally in lists of purported reasons for chemtrail & here's a 3 yr olf thread about it - www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 02:55 PM
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Anybody want to see a specification for a Spray pane? Maybe even buy one for yourself? They aren't secret, anyone who wants one can have one, if you can afford it.


www.mindenair.net...


They even have a gallery of other air raft types used and past operations.
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posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 02:55 PM
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I have one thing to say that conforms all this weather modification:

www.australianrain.com.au...



posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 02:58 PM
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But surely, the one reason that shows that to be an idiotic theory is because the sky isn't completely blocked at all times? There are vast areas with no cloud cover at all. Clouds also blow about in the wind. If the sky is blocked directly above your head, someone else a few hundred miles away could have an unimpeded view of he same sky.



posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 02:59 PM
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AND again.....the complete misunderstanding of what "cloud seeding" is, and what "weather modification" actually implies.

Try to learn by researching the differences of "weather" and locality, to "climate" and its generality.



posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 02:59 PM
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Weather modification is rain making - it hasn't needed "confirmation" for 50 years because it has been public knowledge at least that long.

The ion generation system is, AFAIK, still unproven - some think it is a scam eg see www.livescience.com...

time will tell whether it works better than cloud seeding I guess



posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 03:02 PM
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Originally posted by ProudBird
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AND again.....the complete misunderstanding of what "cloud seeding" is, and what "weather modification" actually implies.

Try to learn by researching the differences of "weather" and locality, to "climate" and its generality.

Did you even bother to click on the link? It is an Australian company that has specialised in this shot for ages. Stop being arrogant for a second and read.





posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 03:03 PM
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There is a pic on that website, that also states about spraying aersosoles into the sky, check my latest reply



posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 03:06 PM
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Yes, I DID click the link.

"Cloud Seeding" is not new, nor anything unusual. Perhaps only for those who are "new" to this "discovery"??
There is a learning curve at work here.



posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 03:10 PM
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Read:




Australian Rain Technologies Pty Ltd is a commercial company committed to enhancing rainfall through research and development of ground-based technologies and advanced predictive and assessment statistical methodologies.


See, "Ground Based Technologies" Not only by way of cloud seeding



posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 03:11 PM
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Originally posted by daaskapital
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul
 

There is a pic on that website, that also states about spraying aersosoles into the sky, check my latest reply



If you mean the page you linked to, no it doesn't. There is a diagram that mentions aerosols, it says nothing about spraying at all.



posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 03:12 PM
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Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
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Yep - the blocking view of nibiru theory is known - I've mentioned it occasionally in lists of purported reasons for chemtrail & here's a 3 yr olf thread about it - www.abovetopsecret.com...


Always gotta ridicule the whole mass of chemtrail believers with absurd uses of them.

But cloud seeding with chemicals isn't chemtrails, oh no because it's scientific...
I'm on the fence with all this chemtrail stuff, most of it does sound absurd but you debunkers are really something...you make me want to REALLY believe there is something going on.



posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 03:13 PM
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Originally posted by waynos

Originally posted by daaskapital
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul
 

There is a pic on that website, that also states about spraying aersosoles into the sky, check my latest reply



If you mean the page you linked to, no it doesn't. There is a diagram that mentions aerosols, it says nothing about spraying at all.

Who gives a # anyway lol. They are still modifying the weather, creating rain from both aerosoles and ground based technologies, using ions.



posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 03:13 PM
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Yes......these companies use various methods, to include (sometimes) the ground-based technology.

It is how ski resorts make "snow" for their purposes.....et cetera.

As I said, many simply need to properly educate themselves, and then realize that NONE of this is related, in any way at all, to the so-called meme of "chemtrails".

They ("chemtrails") are an imagination, they do not exist.

Period.



posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 03:15 PM
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Originally posted by daaskapital
Who gives a # anyway lol. They are still modifying the weather, creating rain from both aerosoles and ground based technologies, using ions.


But don't you see how completely different this is to chemtrails?!



posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 03:18 PM
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Originally posted by User8911

But cloud seeding with chemicals isn't chemtrails, oh no because it's scientific...
I'm on the fence with all this chemtrail stuff, most of it does sound absurd but you debunkers are really something...you make me want to REALLY believe there is something going on.


No, thats not it at all. cloud seeding isn't chemtrails because its not only NOT a long white trail in the sky, it actually leaves NO TRAIL.

Comprehension, at all?

Anyway, weren't you going to prove a point on the last page? Are we to take it you've dropped that line of discussion now?





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