Originally posted by RedCairo
I've had cats all my life, sometimes 10 at a time (not on purpose I assure you lol).
Cats are a little like people in this regard. SOME cats seem to be ok eating commercial food just like some people eat the standard diet and as they are relatively thin and haven't developed cancer or diabetes yet, they're assumed to be fine. Some genetic lines will get fat but not ill until somewhere down of the road of that. Some will get psychological disorders or cancer or whatever. For cats, just like people most of the initial symptoms are obvious, it's just that people don't know to look for it. That includes skin conditions in particular, from cystic acne to rashes, and common allergy-style issues such as chronically recurring rhinitis or bronchitis. Some cats, like people, will die of other things before disease kills them so you never know.
But grains don't generally help anybody. Food is probably the biggest genuine conspiracy on the planet, in part because it so profoundly affects everything else. And grains for cats are just nasty.
My cats are dramatically affected by food, in psychology and in energy as well as in skin disorders, constant barfing, etc. I once took a cat to the vet and he told me that her liver etc. was sluggish and he could give her some medication. I said, would that cure her? No, he says, but it will deal with some of the symptoms... for awhile. Might cause others. I ask, so what causes sluggish liver? He says, all the organs get sluggish when the health is poor. I say, what makes the health poor? He says, generally the food. I said you know... you could have started the conversation on that point. :-)
Now, go over to a site like earthclinic dot com and find another 8 zillion testimonials and stories by people and how they cured their pets of nearly everything under the sun, many of them with the pet near the point of death.
Originally posted by FissionSurplus
reply to post by shimmeringsilver73
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Originally posted by truthseeker84
Raw feed, "processed properly" (don't feed raw meat you buy from your local Vons/Ralphs/Albersons), is the best for your pets.
Wet food, most of the time are not recommended. I mean, if you understand the science of it, you will know why. It's not that every single brand of wet food is bad, it's just that wet food contains almost 60% of water.
Dry kibble, is generally recommended the most. But, the quality is largely dependent on the consumer, how much are you willing to spend?
After research, First Shield Trio is # compared to Frontline. But again, I discovered that First Shield Trio was made by these f***ers just like Royal Canine or Science Diet. So again, they get commission for what they sell, screw your pet's health.
I now feed my dog Orijen dry dog kibble. It is a "Grain Free" formula. Which means, there is no wheat, no rice, no brown rice, no grain of any kind. It is guaranteed 80% protein 20% fruits & vegies. My Golden Retriever's energy level is like Krypto the Super Dog on this diet.
But Orijen will cost you dearly and it cannot be found in regular pet stores like PetSmart or PetCo. Orijen is a Canadian brand dog food, you have to look for it online.
Again, grain free dry dog food will cost you an arm and a leg but over time, it is the best for your dog, saves you more in the long run when your dog is disease free.
Originally posted by starchild10
Bare with me (please note 'bear' is an animal OP).
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Most expats cook up offal etc from the market. It's perfectly good for pets - indeed where I was living there were many locals who would have been glad of such a diet. It shouldn't be a shock that this is what goes into pet food. Should we be giving them fillet steak then? As for there being chemicals in dog food, what do you think is in so much 'human food'? Tried a 'chicken nugget' lately' or 'ham' shaped from gunk?
I should probably be feeding my dog fresh meat. That said, my neighbours dogs lived till they were 15 and mine is well on track for that age. We all use commercial dried food. Not much of a 'conspiracy' there.
As for cats I think anyone who keeps more than two cats should be euthanised along with the cats. They are not 'little people' sheesh.
Originally posted by shamdaddy
I hope you had pet insurance, I cant even imagine what a fully tally of all you vet bills is.
What is BARF diet and what kind of raw food do you feed her? In a can? Or just raw fish or chicken from the supermarket?
My kitten Shamus the left one on my avatar is and has always been sick. He sounds congested all the time, and the vet couldn't do anything. We tried anti-biotics, the LLysine powder you mentioned, and echinacea drops. I wonder if the raw diet would give him the strength to fight off whatever he has. He eats heartily and plays all day and he's big for only 8 months, but I feel bad because we cant do anything for him.
Originally posted by SheeplFlavoredAgain
I have a cat who had that "cat flu" illness. The vet diagnosed it as respiratory herpes virus and it does respond to adding powdered l-lysine to the food. I read that respiratory herpes virus can also affect and eventually cause eye ulcers. So that is is something to be aware of if you have a cat diagnosed with it.
I had a cat live out a full life span on Pro Plan dry kibble. I tried getting her on a better diet but she wanted no part of any other foods, ever. She had FIV her whole sixteen years and still did fine on that diet though she did barf a lot.
I am open to experimenting with foods and the cats seem to pick what works for them. I would rather go to grain free diets but the two brands I tried, one being "Before It's Grain" canned version was roundly rejected by all of my cats for some reason after they were on it a couple of months. Then one day a new bag of the dry version gave them severe diarrhea that took days to clear up. I don't know if I got a bad bag or what but I decided never to buy it again.
I won't say exactly how many cats I have because I don't want someone from ATS to euthanize me!