Republicans continue on their quest to destroy everything the U.S. stands for.

Originally posted by ElectricUniverse

Originally posted by Chewingonmushrooms
Question for you: If Democrats held all the seats in congress and senate, held the presidency and had all members on the Supreme Court would that really change things? I am not talking about cosmetic minor changes, I am talking about real change. Monetary policy, environmental policy, and foreign policy just to point out a few would all remain the same.
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Oh boy... Don't you know this has happened SEVERAL times, and every time it ended up the same way?

You actually think that democrats are so good for the people?

As some other members and I have been tyring to remind leftwingers like yourself, progressive democrats, under a democrat president in 1913 passed MAJOR legislation which included the Federal Reserve Act, or what people call The Feds, The IRS as it exists today with it's PROGRESSIVE taxes, and other legislation and even regulations that stopped the economic growth of the United States in general and gave power to a few people.

Until not too long ago DEMOCRATS were a majority, again, in the House, and the Sentate, not to mention that we have another PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRAT as President, and what exactly have they been doing?... You tell us...

edit on 30-12-2011 by ElectricUniverse because: (no reason given)

LOL did you even read my post or several others that I posted on this thread? I think you are barking up the wrong tree. Total reading apprehension FAIL.

Originally posted by jacklondonmiller

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Communism= the state owns everything

Anarchism=the state owns nothing.

SIMPLE

There is no reason to be confused. Only the PTB want everyone to be confused and keep voting center-left or center-right.

State = LAWS to protect private property and enforce contracts

NO STATE = No LAWS to protect private property or enforce contracts

That is the duality

edit on 22-12-2011 by jacklondonmiller because: (no reason given)

Statism = abolishment of private property

This is the whole point. That State is not going to protect private property. Ever hear of Emminent Domain? I believe this is a perversion of the original concept in our Constitution. Our Founding Fathers explicitly wanted private property. The original statement was "life, liberty, and property" but was changed to pursuit of happiness.
I am going to wrap this up in a package for everyone here to understand.
The NWO is a program of bringing a One World Govt through whatever means possible, it is World Communism and it doesn't matter how it is packaged or what pretty face or mask they put on it. Globalism is a good term but it does sound more benign than Communism because of what Communism did in the early part of the century. It will entail the control by the Power Elite and Intl Bankers of all the world's resources, including water rights, mining, diamonds, land, etc. The people are increasingly being coralled into the cities while the land is being grabbed by govt and huge areas declared World Heritage sites by the UN for the purpose of control and keeping humans out of those areas.
Depopulation is a huge part of the program and you will find this agenda all through the UN Agenda 21 documentation and all their "Sustainability" programs center around stealing the land from the people and having it be under UN control and domination, with most of the population being culled in one way or another to leave most of the planet as pristine as possible. These are the programs of the Gaians, those who worship Mother Earth and believe humans are parasites and must be got rid of(or they say it's to preserve the earth from mankind's own stupidity and abuse) and this is where all that nonsense Global Warming/Climate Change came out of.
This is the plan, to usurp all national sovereignty and surrender all to the NWO with all the "useless eaters' having no personal control and no rights.
It is George Orwell on steroids and worse than even he imagined. It is total domination of the earth and all it's resources by a handful. Let's call them the 1%. OWS is right about that, but its not people who make $250,000 a year, it's the Rothschilds, Soros, Rockefellers, Harrimans, the members of Bilderbergs, these are the ones. They plan to be the new "bourgeois of the proletariat" the new owners of the communist revolution, the leaders on top while billions of people suffer under their rule and their depopulation agenda of mass starvation, poisoning by chemcials and poisins in the food, clothing and water, in the air(yes possibly chemtrails, and please read Dr Len Horowitz book, "Death Is In the Air"), nuclear holocaust(remember the elite have their D.U.M.B.s underground to survive all this stuff.
It is apocalyptic proportions.
Call it globalism, communism, capitalism, or whatever ism you want, it all stems from the same Intl cabal and Illuminati running things. They meet in secret to determine how the world will go, what wars will happen, what global taxes they are going to foist upon an unsuspecting populace.
Have I made this clear for anyone?

This is why people like Alex Jones and Glenn Beck talk about preparing and storing food and water and why the evil ones are trying to find out who is storing supplies.

reply to post by ElectricUniverse


You completely ignore that recent debt was built up almost entirely under conservative/republican admins.

Current Conservatives have no respect for the U.S. constitution, they want to pretend that corporations do not abuse the rights of the people, and turn all power over to a global corporate empire, that will enslave us all if given the opportunity. They got you obsessed with 1913, when all you have to look at is the 8 years GW held office, and what his regime did the the people of the U.S., how they stripped our liberties and redistributed our wealth into the pockets of the International Corporate Bankers in support of a Global Corporate Empire.

Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by ElectricUniverse

 

You completely ignore that recent debt was built up almost entirely under conservative/republican admins.

Current Conservatives have no respect for the U.S. constitution, they want to pretend that corporations do not abuse the rights of the people, and turn all power over to a global corporate empire, that will enslave us all if given the opportunity. They got you obsessed with 1913, when all you have to look at is the 8 years GW held office, and what his regime did the the people of the U.S., how they stripped our liberties and redistributed our wealth into the pockets of the International Corporate Bankers in support of a Global Corporate Empire.

What you are not getting is that both parties have increased the debt because we have a growing out of control spending based on unfunded liabilities, Obamacare, SS, Medicare, military spending especially wars and black ops, pork barrel spending and yes Obama and Biden both voted FOR the infamous Bridge to Nowhere then slammed Palin for it,Pell grants for higher education, public education, section 8 housing and urban development, health and human services, food stamps unemployment benefits, military benefits, bureaucratic offices and functions, the CIA, FBI, DEA, all govt bureacracies and so on. The more we add to the list of spending the higher the debt and it just accumulates.
Both parties have to rein in the spending. We have to stop sending money to foreign and third world countries for nation building. loans, etc and we have to defund the UN because the UN is a big part of the NWO apparatus wherein our tax dollars go to programs of depopulation, abortion, family planning, etc.
It's time to rein it all in and stop the massive growth of govt.

Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by ElectricUniverse

 

You completely ignore that recent debt was built up almost entirely under conservative/republican admins.

Current Conservatives have no respect for the U.S. constitution, they want to pretend that corporations do not abuse the rights of the people, and turn all power over to a global corporate empire, that will enslave us all if given the opportunity. They got you obsessed with 1913, when all you have to look at is the 8 years GW held office, and what his regime did the the people of the U.S., how they stripped our liberties and redistributed our wealth into the pockets of the International Corporate Bankers in support of a Global Corporate Empire.

Did you not understand who was responsible for passing the Federal Reserve Act and the people who promoted it? By the way, both parties had legislation on the block for this. I would heartily recommend you studying G Edward Griffin on this, read his book "The Creature From Jekyll Island", study YouTUbes of his lectures, and check out his website www.freedomforceinternational.org...

reply to post by Chewingonmushrooms


You must mean "comrpehension" not "apprehension".

Completely different meanings.

reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus


Actually that's my crazy auto-correct word speller. But thanks, I can appreciate the correction didn't even notice that

reply to post by Chewingonmushrooms


Quite the contrary,

Most go into politics terrified as ever and know the nation must die by external order and know if they wish to remain where they are they are to keep their trap shut and look pretty for the camera's. If they dare reveal a thing they are pretty well dead, their families are dead, their friends are dead all are dead and after that the target goes for the final.. Hopefully this does not occur to Bradley Manning!

reply to post by poet1b

Republicans? Since when does either side of the fence represent the people? Unless they represent the bill of rights or the constitution, it doesn't matter if they are red or blue. Both sides continuously erode our rights in an equal manner.

But, I feel your frustration. I think everyone does lately. Anyone that's excited about Grinch NewtRich or Flip Romulan is out of their minds IMO.